Colour_me_triggeredAug 22, 2023

What's the best (non-criminal) way to completely destroy the tourism sector in my home town.

https://lemm.ee/post/5054820

What's the best (non-criminal) way to completely destroy the tourism sector in my home town. - lemm.ee

I live in a small town which is disproportionately popular with tourists. Because of this, people are hoarding property to rent out on Airbnb. I want to buy a house but will never be able to afford it unless the market is flooded with properties. Again I’m not looking for anything illegal just some propaganda tricks to keep the tourists away for a year or two.

Show threadjoeAug 22, 2023

Run for mayor (or local equivalent), win, and then push for/implement a bunch of rules that make the town inhospitable to tourists.

I assume the tourism brings in money to the local community, yeah? Cutting off that income will probably mean you won’t be able to win the next subsequent election, so act fast.

Show threadgivesomefucksAug 22, 2023

Yeah, it sucks if housing prices are catching up and you don’t own a house.

But in a small town there’s probably pretty high levels of home ownership so most voters are probably happy their prices have gone up. And it’s probably helping the entire local economy.

But small towns also have cheap land pretty close and local builders who don’t charge crazy prices. So instead of buying a house in town, you may have to build 5-10 minutes away.

But who knows what OP means by small town. Depending on where you are in the country “small town” can mean drastically different things.

Show threadjoe

A quick scan of the OP’s history suggests that they live in Norway, but I don’t know if that tells us anything about what a “small town” is. Nor do we know why the town is popular. It’s at least plausible that tourists stay in that small town because there are so many places to stay, and it’s close to some area that is the real reason the tourists are there. (like a mountain to ski on, or something).

I doubt the OP expects a real answer, because they didn’t provide enough information.

Aug 22, 2023 at 12:22pmWeb
Show threadgivesomefucksAug 22, 2023

Yeah, from OPs comment history it just seems like some troll.

They’re not actually asking for help, and they’re probably not in any position to buy a house.

They spend a lot of time complaining about one of the most citizen friendly governments in the world. It might just be a rightwinger from another country shitting on socialism because Norway is one of the go to examples of it working

Show threadjoeAug 22, 2023
Considering some of their comments, doesn’t seem likely to be right wing. Most of their complaints are anti-capitalism in nature. The rest of your reply is certainly plausible.
Show threadgivesomefucksAug 22, 2023

Because when Americans complain about capitalism, rightwingers want to pretend the only options are China or the USSR from decades ago…

They don’t like talking about Nordic socialism, because that’s the system that works and people like.

So for as long as I’ve been on the internet, there’s been a big push to make those countries seem terrible.

Which include saying they’re just as bad as capitalist countries. Hell, OP even complains about the government giving aid to people that need it for stuff like housing. Which in this case would be people like OP.

Maybe they’re just an idiot and don’t understand they’re against the thing that would solve their problems? Maybe they’re actually rich and their real issue is they don’t get the benefits but believe people getting the benefits mean rent is higher for them and that’s why they’re against it?

I dunno, OP isn’t making any comments to explain what the fuck their talking about.

Show threadjoeAug 22, 2023
I’m pretty sure that Norway is capitalistic, just like America. The difference is mostly a matter of degree, not category. I definitely could be mistaken, though.
Show threadgivesomefucksAug 22, 2023

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model

It’s more socialist than what any American politician like Bernie or AOC is asking for…

Nordic model - Wikipedia

Show threadColour_me_triggeredAug 22, 2023
Yeah the overwhelming impression foreigners have is that Norway is a socialist paradise, but in actual fact the only good policies here are paid holiday and (almost) free healthcare. Wages are relatively high but so is cost of living. The housing market is largely unregulated and the market is full of monopolies and grifters. Small businesses are crushed in their infancy and the government is trying to sell off as much of the vital infrastructure as possible to private companies. No low income housing is ever built, and the government decides to subsidise things rather than regulate them.
Show threadwahmingAug 22, 2023
Buddy, you don’t know how good you have it. Hang out with some foreigners sometime and listen to our horror stories about our home countries
Show threaddot20Aug 22, 2023
The word you’re looking for is ‘social democracy’, which is a broadly capitalist system with socialist elements.
Show threadjoeAug 22, 2023

One of us doesn’t know what socialism is, and I want to be very clear here that it might be me.

I am under the impression that socialism is about the government owning industry, not having a robust social safety net. Though, from that link you provided, Norway happens to be an exception in the Nordic model, and actualy does own some industries. So I guess we’re both right? haha

Show threadColour_me_triggeredAug 22, 2023
Norway isn’t socialist
Show threadNewNewAccountAug 22, 2023

It is a social democracy. Market-based with some socialialist institutions and programs.

It is more left-leaning than the US, for comparison’s sake.

Show threadHausAug 22, 2023
The first/only small town in Norway with crazy tourism that comes to mind is Tromsø. If that's the one, I don't imagine it will ever change.
Show threadjoeAug 22, 2023
At the risk of making the OP’s problem worse: www.visittromso.no for the curious.
Visit Tromso

Visit Tromso is the official tourist information site for all your northern lights and midnight sun tours and Tromso regional information.

Visit Tromso
Show threadSchlemmyAug 22, 2023
They’ve got bears and Northern lights! I’m looking for some property right away!
Show threadColour_me_triggeredAug 22, 2023
All the bears are stuffed. Carry on to Longyearbyen or drive inland to kilpisjærvi.
Show threadBOMBSAug 22, 2023
but I’ve never seen the northern lights! let me know if you want to meet up while I’m there 👌
Show threadBOMBSAug 22, 2023
booked my flight and AirBnB! thank you 😊
Show threadColour_me_triggeredAug 22, 2023
Fucking stop! DELET THIS!
Show threadjoeAug 22, 2023
Is this really where you are talking about?
Show threadNewNewAccountAug 22, 2023
Someone contact the Tromso authorities.
Show threadwahmingAug 22, 2023
Plot twist: OP works for the tourism dept
Show threadmyrrhAug 22, 2023
This is the kind of thing more appropriate for an UnethicalLifeProTips community lol.
Show threadCarighan MaconarAug 22, 2023

From my experience, small town in Norway can easily scale down to 15-20 houses, so yeah, difficult to say.

For example a few years ago my GF and her partner went to the grandparents in Veidnes, and wow that’s a whole new level of a couple houses in the middle of freaking nowhere…

Show threadwahmingAug 22, 2023

what a “small town” is

Pretty much everything besides Oslo

Show threadTerrasqueAug 22, 2023
angry Bergen noises
Show threadwahmingAug 22, 2023
Sorry, can’t hear you over the rain