Domino’s pulls out of Russia 18 months after Ukraine invasion

https://lemmy.world/post/3580873

There can be no ethical consumption under capitalism.
he typed, sure of his worldview and naive to the hypocrisy of consuming electricity which powered the personal computer he bought and didn’t forge himself from silicon and copper.
While I agree …I would also like to say “smoke it if you got it”.
Ah yes, I forget I cannot criticize a thing I partake into in hopes it improves.

a thing I partake into in

More like a thing we’re all forced into but yeah, the sentiment is correct.

Do you think that I think that I don’t consume? I just don’t attach morality to it, e.g. “Don’t buy Domino’s because they’re still in Russia over a year after the war” or insert any virtue signaling “protest” like Bud Light etc.
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Where and when can there be ethical consumption?
Off the grid homelessness.
Find me an economic system where increasing profits at the expense of everything else isn’t the only goal. Probably that one.
Where does that one exist on earth right now? If you do find it, is that country somewhere you want to live?
I lived in one which ostensibly did not prioritize profits and it sucked. We didn’t even have pizza at all, no joke. Pizza wasn’t part of the five-year plan, after all.
Where?
Soviet sattelite.
I bet there is something in between Late Stage Capitalism USA and past soviet “communism” where workers aren’t being exploited.
From the systems we’ve seen the European / Nordic model seems like the best that has been tried so far.

Exactly. Now stand firm against the “we can’t have that here [because made up x y and z reasons]” clowns that will tell you it isn’t possible in any other country.

We know it’s possible. Especially for the richest nation in the world. The issue is that the richest nation in the world has been bought by the powerful elite and doesn’t give a single fuck about the people, because capitalism is busy making shareholders rich.

They still exchange currency for goods and services in Norway. Hell they even pump oil offshore. The difference is that that oil profit literally goes to the benefit of the people.

If there can be no ethical consumption under capitalism and you bought your electronics, electricity and internet service (capitalism) then your commenting here (anyld all the rest of it) is unethical.

Sorry, but that’s how I read your hot take and the hypocrisy is so juicy I couldn’t help but comment.

“If there can be no ethical consumption under capitalism and you bought your electronics, electricity and internet service (capitalism) then your commenting here (and all the rest of it) is unethical.”

Yes that is precisely what they’re saying. It’s not hypocritical though.

That’s the point, dumbass. It’s not a “Holier than thou” statement. Funny how you instantly lash out though, almost as if you’ve been trained.

Call me a dumbass, I’ll accept your insults too and the criticism of my ideas because that’s fair game. The fact you have to insult me personally and claim I’m ‘lashing out’ is funny, no?

I’m still going to call out hypocrisy when I see it. Have a great day <3

Stay obese on propaganda, kiddo.
Whatever you say, boss. Have a good evening ❤️
You just steal your food from farmers then?
Because farming is specific to capitalism lmfao what a dumbass response. Using currency to purchase goods and services does not equal capitalism you fucking Neanderthal.
I just don’t attach morality to shitty brands or corporations. It’s okay we don’t need to act like they are “on our side” because inherently they are the ones exploiting us. They cater to the market, not a sense of morality. Acting like they actually care, or have some sort of moral compass is just sticking your head in the sand against the irrefutable evidence of the capitalist hellscape we live in.
Who is your ISP?
A shitty American one. Because capitalism.
Fuck Domino’s. They stayed for a fucking year and half. I hope they lost tons of money. Fucking vile sub-human shitbags.
I mean, to be fair, they stopped all financial support to Russia in 2022 (still took too long). This was just a pre-existing licensing agreement. I doubt they could’ve revoked it. Most people don’t think to put a “must stop operating in any country that commits war crimes” clause in their licensing deals
Fair enough. Still pretty angry about it.
This is almost like being pissed at Boeing because russia stole their planes.

These things are not related. Domino’s had the ability to leave (despite any imagined contracts) this entire time. They chose to stay in hopes of continued profit.

They chose money over human life, which is the expected behavior of sub-humans. Russia did not steal from them. Russia did not imprison or threaten them. They chose to stay for profit because they are villainous shitstains. Do not defend them. They neither need nor want your defense (unless it brings them profit).

I can’t tell if you’re a high-ranking Domino’s employee or just full of shit 🤷

They chose to stay in hopes of continued profit.

I hate to spoil this for you but the only reason any brand or corp left Russia was because they were afraid of reduced profits (sanctions notwithstanding). End of story. That just happens to line up with the majority of people’s sentiments which is “Fuck Russia.” Don’t confused morality with perfectly timed greed.

Username checks out lol

Bet you’re gonna have a stroke when the next GOP president is in office 🤣

You sure claim to know a lot about the business operations of Dominos. Can you back any of that up or all you fill of shit?
What did you want the American branch to do, go in and physically dismantle the franchised outlets?
The parent company has the ability to revoke franchise status. They absolutely could do that and chose not to.
They actually stopped taking orders, it just took this long to finish their deliveries.

Here it is. The embodiment of the example I gave (before I even saw this lmao) in my responses to the idiots down voting.

Stop attaching morality to stupid fucking brands, people. The capitalists fucking hate you.

Fucking vile sub-human shitbags.

Sir, this is a pizza place that hires mostly teenagers. There are much greater evils to get sweaty about. This one isn’t it.

guess they ran out of lube and could no longer deliver in 30 minutes or less.

Im gonna be honest man, you sound like a total tard. It’s just pizza, i swear it has no effect on the war.

Like it or not pizza guys are people too

You misread the article. It’s not Domino’s, it’s the franchise owner who operates Domino’s in Europe.

The title is somewhat misleading

You have to keep in mind that the Russian government holds workers hostage. The Kremlin literally requires foreign companies to have an office with workers located in Russia just so that the workers can be threatened in order to pressure the company. And most companies care enough about their image to try and prevent headlines like " allowed workers in Russia to be murdered".
Thank you Dominos for breaking the spirit of the Russian population with your horrible pizzas.
Idk man, I think they’re the best fast food pizzas. Better than Pizza Hut or Little Caesars, although Caesars is close

Where does Papa John’s sit in your rankings?

I haven’t had Little Caesar’s in a long time, but Papa John and Domino’s are both pretty solid options, and I like your term calling them “fast food pizza.”

I’ll be honest, I think I ate papa johns like two decades ago, so I have no idea. They just aren’t around me. But yeah if you think about it, they’re totally fast food. Cheap and consistent, you know what you’re getting. But if you want something GOOD you gotta go with a real, local pizza place.

Where does Papa John’s sit in your rankings?

We’re talking about pizza here. What relevance does Papa John’s have?

Then you just have garbage tier pizzas.
In Germany they bought up Hallo Pizza, which was so much better, both in quality and what they offered.
Also, all pizzas are fast food...

Also, all pizzas are fast food…

No, if you sit down in a pizzeria, order one, wait for it to be freshly made, than that’s no fast food.

lol
Do you think they serve frozen pizzas? Pizza is inherently fast food.

Let’s check Wikipedia’s definition:

Fast food is a type of mass-produced food designed for commercial resale, with a strong priority placed on speed of service.

That does not apply to a pizza made on your order in a sit-down pizzeria where you wait just as long as in other kinds of restaurants.

It does, because it's literally the same. A fast food service still rolls out the dough, adds the tomato sauce, cheese and other ingredients and throws it into the oven for a few minutes. The only difference is that a big delivery service that specializes on pizzas is that they prepare much larger quantities beforehand, as they can expect to use much more than a restaurant.

But since you're such a fan of Wikipedia, you might want to read the fast food article proper:

Examples of fast food (left to right, top to bottom): Cheeseburger, soft drink, french fries, pizza margherita, hot dog, fried chicken, submarine sandwich, and donuts.

The UK has adopted fast food from other cultures as well, such as pizza, doner kebab, and curry. More recently, healthier alternatives to conventional fast food have also emerged.

Common menu items at fast food outlets include fish and chips, sandwiches, pitas, hamburgers, fried chicken, french fries, onion rings, chicken nuggets, tacos, pizza, hot dogs, and ice cream, though many fast food restaurants offer "slower" foods like chili, mashed potatoes, and salads.

etc.

The only difference is that a big delivery service that specializes on pizzas is that they prepare much larger quantities beforehand

Which is the critical difference - “with a strong priority placed on speed of service”. If you don’t prepare it with a focus on speed, and prepare it in a slow way, serve the customer in a more normal slow setting, then it’s not “fast food”.

By that definition nothing is fast food.

You’re getting onto something.

It’s not the type of food, it’s the form of preparation and consumption.