What will it actually take for everyone to just quit X (Twitter)?

https://programming.dev/post/1932715

What will it actually take for everyone to just quit X (Twitter)? - programming.dev

@likeaduck I keep asking myself that. I still have a profile although I haven't been on the site for weeks. Once, I practically lived there. It changed my life - truly.

Such massive and old platform won’t lose its userbase just because it undergoes a wild evolution. Look at .tumblr, facebook…

Instead, ask what it takes for eXTwitter to stop being any important.

I actually like Tumblr but due to their horrible app, I just quit it. Deleted my account and removed the app.

Been trying to find an similar platform but to no luck.

Tried ‘Pixelfed’ but their app isn’t great either and the platform seems empty.

Pixelfed has over 20 million of postings and is under heavy development, I hope you give it another chance in the future :)
Try the „Vernissage“ app for Pixelfed.

I’m willing to retry Pixelfed with that app, however which instance do you recommend?

With Lemmy it was easy, Mastodon was random with luck (went with World instance). But with Pixelfed, I’m not sure which one to choose and if it matters much.

People need to be able to use their brains. I see it difficult.
You know how x’s are

When it stops being relevant in the cultural consciousness.

One of the reasons people use Twitter is for up-to-date news and notifications on events. As official organisations move away from it and the used experience degrades, it will just fade away like MySpace.

You can already see this happening. My guess is that it will just go on slow decline. I would bet Twitter will not be nearly as relevant in a year.

It’s becoming less and less relevant, but corporations need to get off of it. I work in the IT industry, and the MECM community is pretty active on it. I wish there would be an exodus to something else. Unfortunately Microsoft and their engineers still use it heavily.

It will die a slow death as the content creators and news organizations leave it.

It won’t happen overnight. But removing Block and requiring IDs will help speed that along.

Oh man I just had a thought. If they require an ID for auth, someone at the news agency has to validate their ID. If that person gets fired, and decides to use their ID to validate ownership and change the password on the account, malicious activity ensues.

They’re requiring ID to sign up?

Damn, I hope that’s true.

No, it’s for a blue check.
I’m waiting for musk to paywall the whole site tbh.
Twitter isn’t technically useless at this time, not yet. Not like, say, YouTube, where actual functionalities were literally flushed down the toilet. If this not making YouTube drop from second place on most popular websites is anything to go by, Twitter’s not really going anywhere, plus being a billionaire, Musk can afford a period of near-inactivity.

You had me until you said YouTube was useless.

I just used it to fix my dishwasher and it saved me hundreds on a service call and repair.

Same for a squealing toilet. Two bucks to replace a single part.

YouTube is awesome.

I mean in the sense of using it as one would use an online community. The ability to comment on videos was thanosed by COPPA, their popularity system is far beyond fixable, and big businesses convince YouTube to take down innocent videos for no reason all the time.
Meh, gotta protect the keeeeeeeeeds.
Youtube is definitely great but in the same context it has made certain things way more difficult to find solutions for. Either you have videos that are way too long for simple how-to videos or way too short/vague for others. Also, you can’t just print up a video when doing some more complex repairs. Took me forever to figure out how to remove the master cylinder for my clutch because every video kind glossed over it.
We need massive 100m follower celebrities to start migrating. News will follow and content creators will adapt. Look at how Taylor Swift move army of people into stadiums globally. That’s the kind of swaying power it needs. But they’ll need proper incentive to actively talk shit about X and ditch it.
Nuclear war? A world wide blackout? Elon just deleting it?
Elon continuing to not pay bills
we would have to look for clues on social media that imploded in the past, like myspace, hi5, etc
Someone explained pretty well above, visibility and infrastructure to host a massive userbase, also accesability would be key. If people are scared of words they dont understand like decentralized if centralized worked somehow.

Twitter is popular because of the massive user base. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts, where people use Twitter for the massive user base, which encourages more people to use Twitter. So escaping that spiral will require a mass exodus to something new. Because artists, musicians, celebrities, etc rely on that large user base to gain and maintain a following. So as long as Twitter has the users, that’s where the content will be.

Threads was a good indicator that people are willing to move if the new platform is available. Unfortunately for Threads, the launch was a fucking train wreck, so people quickly got tired of it and returned to Twitter. They didn’t even have basic functionality figured out. But as a proof of concept, it showed that people aren’t tied to Twitter specifically; They’re tied to the user base. If a new service manages to cultivate that user base, people will be willing to migrate.

Mastodon’s big issue so far has largely been visibility. People simply don’t know it exists, and the people who do know about it use it as a backup for their Twitter; They’re not using it to replace Twitter, but rather they’re double-posting everything to both Twitter and Mastodon. So the Twitter users have no reason to move to Mastodon, because the Mastodon users are still using Twitter. It’s a catch-22, where the Mastodon users need to use Twitter to maintain visibility, but then the Twitter users will never switch to Mastodon because everyone is still using Twitter.

You’re forgetting one very important thing.

In the virtual world, people can be in more than one place at a time.

Nobody “moved” to Threads, really, people just gave it a try to see what it was about.

There is no world or future that exists where something gets released that causes people to go through the effort of deleting their twitter account.

People are lazy and lean towards convenience, me included.

I don’t know that visibility is Mastodon’s biggest problem. I’ve talked to a lot of people who tried it but just didn’t find it easy to use and just bailed. I think people expecting it to be diet Twitter and getting frustrated when it isn’t as populated or user friendly is a bigger issue at this point.
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the exact reason I thought of, but you worded it much better than I would have
Iris verification to confirm identity and log in

This would be amazing.

It would wipe out 99.999% of all trolls and propaganda accounts.

How would that kill twitter?

How would that kill twitter?

I mean, you just wipped out 99.99% of all accounts.

And they were all trash, so the quality vs quantity just went up almost 100 fold.

So that would be awesome.

Subscription model, everyone hates those.

People being constantly antagonized by their enemies.

Because if realizing that a sycophant billionaire actively destroying something every week isn’t convincing, then you’re kinda complicit.

The internet going down. One of the problems we face as a society is things don’t get worse fast enough for us to stop putting up with the ‘just a little bit worse’ things constantly get.
Losing the ability to block promoted content.

I’m never going to quit it!

But only because I’ve never had an account. No thanks.

“I will never use Twitter in the future. I never did, but I never will, too.” - Mitch Hedberg, probably
When your local politicians and journalists start to use Mastodon or similar apps.
Combination of more prominent Mastodon users and continued bad decisions which doesn’t seem to end
What ever it is, Elon Musk is working on it.
To be honest I never needed Twitter, but I made an account since some of users of my software asked that I announce new versions there. So now I have an account which I sporadically use for tech support for some companies in my country. If Twitter dies, I don’t need any similar social network. Its only benefit was being able to publicly reach any user.
The longer it takes, the worse it is for every user on every (corporate-run) platform. All of the recent actions are openly and extremely hostile to the user base. The fact that people are still (generally) putting up with it has emboldened others (esp. Reddit) to take similarly hostile actions. They all (at least think) they have a free pass for all this shittiness, and the users will accept it.
If the clowns who endlessly complain about Musk just stopped complaining about him on his own platform, the entire site would collapse.
An alternative that is easy to join for every normie, where NSFW is allowed, and the service works seamlessly 24/7.
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It’s going to take a seemless to register platform that offers comparable features to Twitter and then massive accounts switching over and actually leaving Twitter behind.

Right now Threads seems to be the closest, but they lack the feature set Twitter has like search and hashtags so the big accounts only tried it out before running back to what worked for them. Not to mention they don’t have a usable web page for the platform either which alienates a lot of desktop users.

If Threads adds those things in, I fully believe more of the bigger accounts will transition over with their following and it’ll snowball to become a massive platform. Whether it stays a good site remains to be seen, it is Meta after all.