nanoUFO'Baldur's Gate 3' Is a Staggering Success and a Once in a Decade RPG
kaduI dropped it around the 25h mark, but even I can agree is a great game that’s probably the current best in the genre
Cabeza2000Why you dropped it?
What other games you played in the genre?
Jo MiranI hope this inspires people to check out Larian’s Divinity: Original Sin series.
Divinity 2 has better combat than bg3
MontaggeWell that's depressing because DOS2 has shitty combat
DOS2 combat allowed you to do goofy stuff and was fun casting spells. BG3 is more 1 turn 1 action and much slower and methodical, I mean makes sense, it is DnD afterall, it's designed for tabletop.
TheLowestStoneIt’s sort of DnD. Solasta offers more authentic 5e combat (especially with mods) but has much weaker stories, awful faces, and bad voice acting.
Yeah I mean I thought divinity combat was fun. I could make massive plays to freeze everyone, create all sorts of elemental clouds and surfaces, group enemies up with teleports, etc. Some combos were definitely OP but that’s what makes it fun + you could ramp up difficulty with mods and such. You could also cast spells for fun or teleport just to get around the map without having to long rest. Baldur’s gate is much slower paced and playing with the elements like that seems way less viable.
I really liked the combat of DOS2. All the interactions between spells were a lot of fun. The only Thing i disliked is, how ineffetive movement felt. Either you had an attack which included movement, or you didnt wanna move
What interaction? The constant everything blows up damaging everyone while healing sucks? Stunning yourself because your standing in blood that glitched under ground? Spells that don't work on the slightest change in the z-axis?
All the interactions between conditions. How wet is the condition to Support shock aswell as frost. How the Rangers First Aid is the only way to remove knockdown. How Charmed kann be removed by clear mind, but not by magic armor. How most geomancer spells create explosive surfaces to synergise with pyro. How you can usw dragons breath to clear Ice so your Charakter wont slip
ItsamelemmyI picked up DOS1 EE and DOS2. Playing 1 when I don’t have access to my desktop as my laptop isn’t capable of running BG3. Still in the first town, but so far I’m enjoying Divinity as well.
But it doesn’t have to be a once in a decade thing. We can drop a great RPG or even a good shooter every couple years.
I meant it’s not. There have been 3 larian games in the last 9 years, and all 3 have been great. And they’re not the only good games or RPGs. So the title is just the usual click bait crap
I played Divine Divinity some when it was released. It was interesting but clunky. It was no Neverwinter Nights.
I want to see us as gamers get away from sequelitis and get full games again without lock boxes or cash shops or battle passes. The excitement of Doom or Battlefield 2 or Elden Ring.
Wont happen. Average consumer consumes without thought for the larger picture, theres a reason we got to this point, people are suckers and buy it all.
Some games like Factorio and BattleBit are worth buying in early access
Early access as in still in development, sure some are, but that is not what I was talking about. It's preorder our finished game (and/or buy a 'deluxe' edition) and get the game 'early' before its release date. Reality is, its just a delayed release for smarter consumers.
And that’s bad, how? If other people were able to play it before the release you know it wasn’t finished the day before release and can read reviews before buying.
How is that not bad? It's preying on people to soak up more money. If you cant understand the difference between buying a game in development vs spending extra to play a game a few days early, then the sun might as well be the moon.
I wouldnt recommend buying games in early access either, especially if they are not discounted. If done properly theres no malice in a company asking for funds as you join the development process of a game. Whereas asking for more money to simply play a game 3 days before its official release with no other differences to the game is just predatory, abusing people excitement and hype to squeeze every last penny out where they can.
I wouldnt recommend buying games in early access either, especially if they are not discounted. If done properly theres no malice in a company asking for funds as you join the development process of a game. Whereas asking for more money to simply play a game 3 days before its official release with no other differences to the game is just predatory, abusing people excitement and hype to squeeze every last penny out where they can.
If you cant understand the difference between buying a game in development
I didn’t say anything about development.
If people want to spend money to play a game early that’s their choice. Just because it’s not something you wouldn’t do doesn’t mean it has no value to anyone. If anything it provides value to the people who aren’t going to buy the game blind on release date (unless the company postpones the release date to make room for early access I guess). Plus the dev has a chance to find and fix bugs before most people start playing.
Also is there a specific game you’re talking about? I’ve only seen games get more expensive after early access, not less.
I imagine the term Early Access is causing confusion here.
I am not talking about the Steam Early Access program, where developers can get some early funding of their game and community feedback on the game during development. I have no issue with this program if it used correctly, which it is mostly. Games generally do get more expensive when leaving yes, as most developers recognise that charging people full price for an unfinished game is unfair.
What I was referring to is different, the early access I am referring to is a recent marketing strategy, generally used to make people spend more money on 'deluxe' editions of video games.
The most recent example would be Starfield, Bethesda are offering a 'Premium Edition' which costs almost 50% more than the base game, it contains some art and soundtrack along with some skins (I won't rant about that right now, but come on...), but it's main selling point being the '5 days early access' to the game. The game releases officially on 6th September, but if you purchase this 'Premium Edition' you can play the game on the 1st September instead.
This is what I have issue with and it is a horrible new practice that many of these multi-billion dollar companies are pulling to try and get more money from people. I understand it's ultimately their choice, but it is preying on their hype and excitement for a game to make them fork over more money that they otherwise would not do.
It's sad to see. Games used to just have a standard price, you paid it got a full game and off you went, now there's all these special editions with extra bullshit attached in an attempt to milk consumers. You should absolutely be against these practices.
New harry potter is one example, where if you had deluxe version, you could play the game 3 days before the official release.
I think they meant DOS 1 & 2
I said it once before but this exactly the game that needed to come out after Final Fantasy 16, and Dragon Age Dreadwolf’s bullshit is going to look even worse in this game’s shadow. Just to shut up the think pieces and comment sections that claim RPGs becoming God of War clones is somehow the only “modern” direction to take them.
tallwookiebecause it’s a good game, or because they didnt go the DLC route?
Because they sold a whole bunch of copies.
all of the above
It turns out, if you make a good game, it’ll probably sell well.
shrugal
people_are_cuteBecause people don’t currently have many options among new games.
Well DOS2 came out 6 years ago, so hardly once in a decade.
nicktronWhat’s DOS2?
ElegastDivinity original sin 2 id assume. Great game as well by Larian.
6 years ago was a different decade.
I found that game wasn’t 8% as engaging or interesting to.me
As BG3? Its essentially the same formula, just different lore and combat.
I just didn’t like it
Hey if we can have several one in a decade world events happening in a short timespan, surely we can get some good games too
👍Maximum Derek👍It scratches the same itch that has led me to buy Skyrim at least 3 times (PS3, PC, and Switch)
This game has taken me back to my Mass Effect days. I’m so glad I checked this game out, and I’ve enjoyed almost every minute I’ve played.
KalistiaYou should try divinity next :D
Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll add it to my list.
First story driven game to fully immerse me since New Vegas. I’m about 15 hours deep and I’m not even scratching the surface.
DurotarThat sounds like I should take a look.