Microsoft Finally Realizes Nobody Wants Its Windows 11 Preinstalled Bloatware

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Microsoft Finally Realizes Nobody Wants Its Windows 11 Preinstalled Bloatware - Lemmy.world

Tldr: Remote desktop, Cortana, camera, people app are all getting uninstall buttons.
“uninstalled” … til the first automatic update 🙃
I never got unwanted stuff back after update.
Its seemed… better lately. But I used to get skype back every single update when 11 first came out.

They also fuck with privacy settings too on uodate...

Switched to Linux after that shit.

I don’t know about Windows 11, but my Windows 10 instance also reverts my “fast startup” setting on every major update. I know this, because my PC’s motherboard does not work with “fast” startup and instead takes about half an hour to get from POST to desktop when it’s enabled. Suffice to say that I know when Microsoft changes this setting behind my back. I have it disabled for a reason, fuckheads.

AMD?

I’ve got a Gigabyte Auros Elite X570 with the 5600. I have to disable fast boot from BIOS because it causes my computer to boot up much more slowly.

I think Fast Boot is more about screwing up anything third party.

If it’s on, it bollixes up the wireless card if you reboot into Linux. But even without dual-booting, it seems to leave USB devices active that I don’t want (specifically a USB->serial adaptor with a peripheral danging off of it)

Do you have a pro or enterprise license?
Cortana is being killed and replaced with their ChatGPT Bing thing.
Does that mean the AI thing will be unable to be uninstalled?
Probably. It will be an “essential” part of the OS, like Edge.
Which means it'll probably be training on literally everything you do on the computer and reporting it all back to Microsoft
Sounds like a good reason to get rid of windows 😁
Yes, all these imagined outrages are definitely a good reason for that.
You can’t honestly believe that Microsoft won’t be harvesting as much data as possible with their AI search.

"As possible" is a key concept here. They'll want to avoid anything illegal or likely to get them sued.

You realize that there are many big companies that use Windows that have a ton of proprietary information on them, that would go completely nuclear on Microsoft if Windows started leaking that information into an AI-training project?

Microsoft has done things multiple times that were blatantly illegal, and a couple of times ran afoul of governments, yet they still did new illegal things after that. There’s no evidence that they are concerned with anyone suing them or ‘going nuclear’ if they aren’t even worried about nation states that have come after them before.
Those companies likely pay for the enterprise version which doesn’t have all that garbage. I guarantee you that Windows for home users is mining as much data as possible.

And most likely they'll come 'round to your house and harvest your organs while you sleep, too.

Where are these "probable" scenarios coming from? This seems kind of overboard.

I mean Windows 11 right now harvests a lot of data about your PC, so I don’t think it’s a stretch exactly.
Windows 11 Collects an Awful Lot of Telemetry About Your PC

The analysis of network traffic by Windows 11 motivated the researcher to wonder if Windows itself is now spyware.

ExtremeTech

"training on literally everything you do on the computer and reporting it all back to Microsoft" is rather a big jump from "report lots of telemetry data."

I'm not saying people shouldn't be paying attention, but this thread is jumping straight from "there's a potential risk here" to "OMG Windows is spyware, delete everything!" There's already a lot of hysteria surrounding AI, let's not go nuts without some kind of actual reason.

"now now, calm down everyone. Let's see what the Orphan-Crushing Machine really does before we start getting upset because it is fully capable of (and seems exclusively designed to) crush all orphans doesn't mean it is actually going to crush ALL the orphans. Probably just a few orphans really."

There is a reason Microsoft stopped caring a long time ago that it is so easy to install and use Windows without paying for a key. You can STILL use any old windows 7 key you have to active windows 10 and 11. You can use the OS nearly in it's entirety (as far as home users are concerned) without even doing that. It is because Windows is no longer Microsoft's biggest product, the user is.

Yep. A lot of what you do is already being reported back to Microsoft though.
Just like Cortana, however, there will be a way to disable it via Group Policy somehow. That’s because government institutions that use Windows will not be happy with there being a feature in the OS that is capable of listening to a microphone and transmitting what it hears to a third party.

there will be a way to disable it

“disable”

It will be an “essential” part of the OS, like Edge Internet Explorer 4.

easy enough to just block telemetry
you can its just a slightly more involved process. They already released a tutorial
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Why does Microsoft hate Halo so much
Microsoft will punish Halo for each and every fan that failed to spend $2000 on mtx armor colors
It’s a successful consumer product. Can’t have that under the Microsoft umbrella

HI! I’m Skype!

uninstall

Hi! I’m Skype!

uninstall

Hi! I’m skype!

“Are you suuuuure you don’t want to use Edge? Are you suuuuure you don’t want it to be the default handler for .pdf and .svg files? Are you sure? Are you sure you’re sure? Just in case, we’ll pin it to your start menu again and put a shortcut to it on your desktop. Just until you’re sure.”

I got so annoyed with the fucking shortcut reappearing that I put it in one corner of one monitor that I hardly look at so it never appears on my main desktop monitor.

Just out of sight and out of mind.

I put it in one corner of one monitor that I hardly look at so it never appears on my main desktop monitor.

lol I did the exact same thing. That and all the unnecessary crap my work installs that I will never use but can’t even uninstall the damn shortcuts they slap on my desktop are all jammed in the corner of a monitor off to the side.

Apple’s starting to get more and more into this. Safari pesters you and nobody wants NEWS/Stocks/AppleTv App, Weather, etc. But you can’t uninstall them :(
Yes but you can bury a “CrApple” folder on the last page
I use the weather
And then they made it where you can’t just select a different browser, you have to go manually associate each type with the new browser.
Which is also when they regularly try and get you to mistakenly click a button to make Edge your default browser. Scummy dark patterns.