fne8w2ahMicrosoft Finally Realizes Nobody Wants Its Windows 11 Preinstalled Bloatware
Tldr: Remote desktop, Cortana, camera, people app are all getting uninstall buttons.
LoafyLemonIt sure took them a while, but they seem to finally allow folks to personalize their experience. I'm not going to complain about it though – this is definitely a good change.
Not far enough. It’d be lovely if I could scale Windows down to almost 7 gigs or so (what windows 10 is, probably should be lower) But the thing is Windows in general is just a bloated piece of crap that continues to grow.
igorlogius“uninstalled” … til the first automatic update 🙃
I never got unwanted stuff back after update.
RanchOnPancakesIts seemed… better lately. But I used to get skype back every single update when 11 first came out.
They also fuck with privacy settings too on uodate...
Switched to Linux after that shit.
dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️I don’t know about Windows 11, but my Windows 10 instance also reverts my “fast startup” setting on every major update. I know this, because my PC’s motherboard does not work with “fast” startup and instead takes about half an hour to get from POST to desktop when it’s enabled. Suffice to say that I know when Microsoft changes this setting behind my back. I have it disabled for a reason, fuckheads.
AMD?
I’ve got a Gigabyte Auros Elite X570 with the 5600. I have to disable fast boot from BIOS because it causes my computer to boot up much more slowly.
I think Fast Boot is more about screwing up anything third party.
If it’s on, it bollixes up the wireless card if you reboot into Linux. But even without dual-booting, it seems to leave USB devices active that I don’t want (specifically a USB->serial adaptor with a peripheral danging off of it)
Do you have a pro or enterprise license?
DreamySweetCortana is being killed and replaced with their ChatGPT Bing thing.
livusDoes that mean the AI thing will be unable to be uninstalled?
Probably. It will be an “essential” part of the OS, like Edge.
zibWhich means it'll probably be training on literally everything you do on the computer and reporting it all back to Microsoft
Apathy TreeSounds like a good reason to get rid of windows 😁
FaceDeerYes, all these imagined outrages are definitely a good reason for that.
You can’t honestly believe that Microsoft won’t be harvesting as much data as possible with their AI search.
"As possible" is a key concept here. They'll want to avoid anything illegal or likely to get them sued.
You realize that there are many big companies that use Windows that have a ton of proprietary information on them, that would go completely nuclear on Microsoft if Windows started leaking that information into an AI-training project?
Microsoft has done things multiple times that were blatantly illegal, and a couple of times ran afoul of governments, yet they still did new illegal things after that. There’s no evidence that they are concerned with anyone suing them or ‘going nuclear’ if they aren’t even worried about nation states that have come after them before.
Those companies likely pay for the enterprise version which doesn’t have all that garbage. I guarantee you that Windows for home users is mining as much data as possible.
And most likely they'll come 'round to your house and harvest your organs while you sleep, too.
Where are these "probable" scenarios coming from? This seems kind of overboard.
I mean Windows 11 right now harvests a lot of data about your PC, so I don’t think it’s a stretch exactly.
"training on literally everything you do on the computer and reporting it all back to Microsoft" is rather a big jump from "report lots of telemetry data."
I'm not saying people shouldn't be paying attention, but this thread is jumping straight from "there's a potential risk here" to "OMG Windows is spyware, delete everything!" There's already a lot of hysteria surrounding AI, let's not go nuts without some kind of actual reason.
"now now, calm down everyone. Let's see what the Orphan-Crushing Machine really does before we start getting upset because it is fully capable of (and seems exclusively designed to) crush all orphans doesn't mean it is actually going to crush ALL the orphans. Probably just a few orphans really."
There is a reason Microsoft stopped caring a long time ago that it is so easy to install and use Windows without paying for a key. You can STILL use any old windows 7 key you have to active windows 10 and 11. You can use the OS nearly in it's entirety (as far as home users are concerned) without even doing that. It is because Windows is no longer Microsoft's biggest product, the user is.
Yep. A lot of what you do is already being reported back to Microsoft though.
Just like Cortana, however, there will be a way to disable it via Group Policy somehow. That’s because government institutions that use Windows will not be happy with there being a feature in the OS that is capable of listening to a microphone and transmitting what it hears to a third party.
there will be a way to disable it
“disable”
It will be an “essential” part of the OS, like Edge Internet Explorer 4.
tallwookieeasy enough to just block telemetry
you can its just a slightly more involved process. They already released a tutorial
2001: A Space Odyssey 4K HDR | The Shutdown Of Hal
Thanks!
ZozanoWhy does Microsoft hate Halo so much
Microsoft will punish Halo for each and every fan that failed to spend $2000 on mtx armor colors
It’s a successful consumer product. Can’t have that under the Microsoft umbrella
HI! I’m Skype!
uninstall
Hi! I’m Skype!
uninstall
Hi! I’m skype!
“Are you suuuuure you don’t want to use Edge? Are you suuuuure you don’t want it to be the default handler for .pdf and .svg files? Are you sure? Are you sure you’re sure? Just in case, we’ll pin it to your start menu again and put a shortcut to it on your desktop. Just until you’re sure.”
I got so annoyed with the fucking shortcut reappearing that I put it in one corner of one monitor that I hardly look at so it never appears on my main desktop monitor.
Just out of sight and out of mind.
I put it in one corner of one monitor that I hardly look at so it never appears on my main desktop monitor.
lol I did the exact same thing. That and all the unnecessary crap my work installs that I will never use but can’t even uninstall the damn shortcuts they slap on my desktop are all jammed in the corner of a monitor off to the side.
Apple’s starting to get more and more into this. Safari pesters you and nobody wants NEWS/Stocks/AppleTv App, Weather, etc. But you can’t uninstall them :(
Yes but you can bury a “CrApple” folder on the last page
I use the weather
And then they made it where you can’t just select a different browser, you have to go manually associate each type with the new browser.
crowsbyWhich is also when they regularly try and get you to mistakenly click a button to make Edge your default browser. Scummy dark patterns.
pitninjaAs an IT/AV guy, I’m not sure how I feel about them getting rid of Camera as a default. It is a pretty good way to quickly make sure an external camera and microphone are working without firing up a video conferencing software.
candyman337What about FUCKING TEAMS
PS> get-appxpackage *teams* | remove-appxpackage
WilshireI love PowerShell
I understand that your comment makes sense in context, but wash your mouth out with soap for speaking such vile heresy
PowerShell is one of the best things MS has done. Turning a rich, OO environment into a CLI was smart.
Kind of horrifying to use when you’re used to a unixy shell though!
Perhaps, but the same goes the other way. I’ll stand by PowerShell even though windows is hit and miss at best.
If lemmy had gold I’d give you some
I’m glad there’s no gold. I’ll still tell you what I told people about buying gold. Go make a donation to a charity instead.
I like fsf.org, saf.org, or gunowners.org
narc0tic_birdYou could always uninstall Teams and still can, regularly via the Settings app.
Fun fact, if you have Teams uninstalled, hitting Windows key + c will conveniently install it again.
Yay!
I think the list of “apps” (AKA junk) people would actually like to deinstall is quite a bit longer.
How about uninstalling edge? It is only needed to download Firefox, anyway.
OverzeetopWait, so of the five apps they will “let” you uninstall now, one makes little sense to have in the consumer edition (remote desktop - which is effectively enabled in Pro only) and one is getting deprecated (Cortana - bye bye!).
The remote desktop they are talking about is the client app used to connect to remote systems.
The remote desktop feature that’s limited to Pro is the ability for the system to receive remote connections.