Lyft and Uber say they will leave Minneapolis if the mayor signs a minimum wage bill for drivers

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Lyft and Uber say they will leave Minneapolis if the mayor signs a minimum wage bill for drivers - Lemmy.world

Lyft and Uber say they will leave Minneapolis if the mayor signs a minimum wage bill for drivers::Lyft and Uber threatened to stop doing business in Minneapolis after the city council adopted a new rule Thursday that would set a minimum wage for rideshare drivers.

Oh no! Businesses whose ‘innovation’ is doing end runs around labour law, leaving? How sad.
The “labor laws” you reference only exist to give taxi companies monopolies and provide worse experiences for everyone involved
You mean exist to ensure the underpaid actually get the legal minimum wage and to stop exploitive rich people from exploiting poor people?

Uber drivers don’t make less money than taxi drivers. On average, they make about the same.

Taxi: ziprecruiter.com/…/What-Is-the-Average-TAXI-CAB-D…

Uber: ziprecruiter.com/…/What-Is-the-Average-UBER-Taxi-…

Then why would the company be against paying minimum wage?

Because it’s a custom minimum wage that only their companies have to pay, set arbitrarily to make shit like taxis more competitive.

Yellow Cab fucking admitted in NYC that they only pushed the “Uber drivers make lower wages” rhetoric because they couldn’t compete, when in fact Uber drivers make what taxi drivers make.

How the hell does a minimum wage make taxis more competitive? That doesn’t make any sense. If uber drivers already make more than the minimum wage then a minimum wage would have no effect on that.
You should read the article, because it’s only a set minimum for those two companies, not a general min wage.
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. I am in Portland and Uber & Lyft are so popular here that the cabs here mostly do medical transport for non-emergency situations. I use to be a dispatcher here for several years. All cabs did were go to various hospitals and doctor offices.
People here really, really do not like their beliefs challenged by reality
well now it feels like I didn’t really leave reddit.

Uhh, Uber drivers are definitely poor… It’s just that taxi drivers are also poor…

Plus, those figures are just averages. Did they take the median or the mean? Are the taxi drivers numbers more of a bell curve with everyone making similar amounts while the Uber drivers are either doing well or not doing well at all? My total guess based on no data whatsoever is yes but I’d be interested in seeing the data if you have it. MLMs use this same trick when they try to convince you their businesses are viable

It’s weird that you think someone making more than almost 40% of the country is “poor”

That is poor lmao
Tell me you have rich parents without telling me you have rich parents.
Tell me you expect people to pretend they’re not poor in order to validate exploitative practices of a massive corporation without telling me you’re a centrist.
One parent was disabled the other made the amount listed above, try again

Yup. Alot of poor people in this country… It’s been getting worse.

Too bad you don’t know how those averages were calculated. Would have been interesting

A) it’s fun how I can tell you’re from a wealthy family

B) all averages are calculated the same way. That’s what “average” means.

I’m sorry the education system has failed you so much. dummies.com/…/the-three-types-of-average-median-m…
The Three Types of Average – Median, Mode and Mean - dummies

We use three different types of average in maths: the mean, the mode and the median, each of which describes a different ‘normal’ value. The mean is what you ge

dummies
If I’d meant median or mode I would have used those words. Average is equivalent to mean.

Yes. The use of the mean as the average is why you can’t tell without looking at the data set if the average of $500 is 1000 people all making around $500 or 500 people making near nothing while the other 500 are making close to $1000 or 750 are making near nothing and 250 making close to $2000, etc…

In this case the mode gives you a more relevant data set. That’s probably not what they’re using though

People are so poor nowadays that saying somebody’s from a wealthy family has become an insult.
No it’s just calling out the “rich progressive savior” mindset, and it’s always been derogatory.
It’s sure neat how when centrists can no longer defend exploitative labor practices, they attack the person they’re talking to. Usually it’s with “You don’t understand how anything works” or “I assume you’re young and therefore wrong.” “I assume you have money and are therefore wrong” is a new one.
He’s wrong without his money, his money just informed me of why is he wrong in this particular way.
Uber & Lyft drivers assume all the financial risk and responsibility for their car payment, maintenance, insurance, cleaning, health and dental insurance, etc. You’ll find that once you factor in the externalities the tech companies push into their workers, they don’t necessarily make good money at all.
So do pizza delivery drivers and they make great money.

They really don’t. When I was a pizza guy about ten years ago, after fuel & maintenance I would make the equivalent of about $12 USD per hour averaged over a month of full time work.

And one big repair like your power steering pump can ruin the whole month. It’s a great way to “use up” the last of your car before you scrap it, but really not a sustainable job.

Weird because when I was a pizza guy, I made more than I did as a teacher
Well are you factoring in the costs to the automobile like they mentioned? As they say they are a hidden cost and can be quite considerable long term as delivering pizzas adds a lot of wear and tear on a vehicle. When I delivered a LOOOONNNG time ago the costs really did sneak up on me. It was a fun job, and initially I thought it paid well - till I got a couple surprises.
Holy fuck, someone as dumb as you is teaching people? Scary.
Ah yes, pizza delivery drivers are well known to be among the highest income earners. Up there with doctors, I believe.

Good time to remind everyone doctors are overpaid due to artificial scarcity, because the ADA lobbies Congress to artificially limit the number of residencies, to keep supply of doctors low

And I didn’t say pizza drivers were rich, I said they make a good living. They do.

You pretty much have to game the system to make any money doing it, like I did.