L4sBotEx-Linus Tech Tips employee alleges mistreatment and poor conditions: “no one gets a break” - Dexerto
TBiI replied this in another thread. Which was downvoted…
It really feels like the pitchforks are out. People want blood and don’t care if the allegations are true or not.
Probably mistakes were made, hopefully just innocent mistakes or bad communication. But it really feels like people don’t care. They see LTT doing well and want to tear them down, even if bringing LTT down will be bad for everyone.
I’ve had a disgruntled employee before. Their version of events was very different to how the rest of the team saw it. If something innocent could have been taken badly it was. I’m not saying that happened here. But let’s investigate and presume innocence.
kaduYou were downvoted because the “innocent mistakes” you’re mentioning are quite literally sexual harassment in the workplace, overworking, denying sick days.
A benchmark result being wrong? Irrelevant, silly, not worth typing about. An employee feeling so distraught they injured themselves purposely to be hospitalized and leave work? Yeah buddy, people will be complaining, what do you expect? We don’t owe LMG anything.
He did say “HOPEFULLY just innocent mistakes…”
Which we all should hope whether we think all allegations are true or not.
There’s no way sexual harassment can be an innocent mistake.
You could say “hopefully this isn’t true” , but you can’t say "hopefully it’s just an innocent mistake, it makes no difference in the context of workplace harassment.
bob_wileyI recently went though sexual harassment training and the bar was “if the person hearing something thinks it’s sexual harassment, then it’s sexual harassment.” It doesn’t matter the intent, or even if they were involved.
With definitions like that, the possibility of making an innocent mistake is almost guaranteed.
I’ve never going to HR about anything, but I can think of dozens of things they have happened to be over the years which could have been take that way. My boss rubbing my shoulders, even though I was visibly and vocally uncomfortable with it. Him when diving his hands down my chest and stomach. Him and a co-worker walking up on either side of me putting one leg up on my desk, so when I noticed and looked one way it was a crotch, then freaked out and looked the other way and was met with another crotch. A lady who asked me to leave various articles of my clothing on her desk before I left work. The same lady would try placing her hand on my lower back as she tried talking to me while walking down the hall. The guy in the cafeteria literally never charging me for a meal and just winking at me… then asking me if I was hungry for a hot dog.
I could go on, but there were a lot of things that could have fit the bill. I did nothing, but others will run to HR when they overhear a PG-13 joke (the lady who asked me to leave my clothes for her was well known for going to HR over really minor stuff like that).
Ah yes, the casual “accidentally groped someone”. That’s what the ex-employee is claiming here. That’s the context.
Is that the context? From what I’m hearing people talking about, someone said “calm your tits” and something about twerking.
Yes, that is the context. There are several allegations, of one which is groping.
There are also non-sexual allegations, which are also very bad and not something that could be misunderstood.
I think the context still matters. There was groping in my list of stuff too, but I used slightly different wording.
Are we talking people trying to squeeze and honk things, or someone put their hand on someone’s shoulder to try and talk to them and calm them down when upset, and it was taken the wrong way and labeled to make it sound as bad as possible?
Hearing one side of anything is rarely the full story.
You are joking right? I understand that you might not have wanted to report the sexual harassment you received but that’s a personal choice and doesn’t give you the right to look down on people who do report it.
I’m just saying sexual harassment needs to be better defined. The current definition is dog shit, to the point of not even being a definition. Simply making eye contact, or just existing in the same office, could be considered harassment based on the current definition.
Even, “you know it when you see it,” would be better than what we currently have. After going through that training I didn’t want to say anything to anyone, especially someone of the opposite sex. Get on someone’s bad side and they can drum up a quick harassment claim to screw up your life.
The comment I replied to described sexual touching when objection had been expressed, there’s nothing more clear cut than that.