Molly White"tor and other web3 projects"? 🤨
yes i know tor is dweb
it's annoying when web3 tries to subsume non-blockchain dweb projects to legitimize itself, and even more annoying when those projects go along with it
Matt Wells@molly0xfff I generally find anyone using the un/lock metaphor to describe wealth generation is probably scamming you.
Funk_Funky@molly0xfff more like dweeb am I right?
grillchen@molly0xfff was looking over gitcoin very fast and i dont get why. there is no reason to support good projects with such an unstable currency. only reason i can imagine is some kind of scam/rug pull. otherwise just paying people with money seems like the sane way
Eibriel@molly0xfff but Tor reached to Gitcoin, or Gitcoin to Tor? Looked around on the site, but can't tell 🤔
Odoben@molly0xfff
Are web 3.0 and web3 interchangeable terms? I always see web3 used specifically to describe things using blockchains but in my mind web 3.0 is associated with just decentralisation.
Are web 3.0 and web3 interchangeable terms? I always see web3 used specifically to describe things using blockchains but in my mind web 3.0 is associated with just decentralisation.
@odoben depends very much who you ask. i don't draw any distinction between "web3" and "web 3.0" — the terms are often used interchangeably. "Web 3.0" has been used in the past to describe other, non-blockchain things — e.g. TBL's Semantic Web concept — but that usage is pretty well abandoned by now
@molly0xfff
I like the definition I've seen recently that says, from the end user's perspective:
web 1.0 - read only
web 2.0 - read/write
web 3.0 - read/write/own
I think this idea works even without blockchains, e.g. users on a small fedi instance who regularly donate money to it have a lot more say in how it's run than on big platforms
@odoben I think the concept of "ownership" on the web requires a lot more interrogation than i've seen it been given
bumblefudge@molly0xfff @odoben but in the very specific sense of decentralized identifier schemes it's actually pertinent here, e.g. you "own" a onion address you generate and at which you stand up a website, and that address can't have it delisted by DNS/ICANN. a lot of the crypto people I know often use onion routing as an example of ownership. also worth noting that lots of crypto people I know are contributors (in code or $$) to the tor project.
Pete Wright@molly0xfff yuck is the eff really that hard up for money that they are saddling up with ponzi schemes as a service?
Drew Breunig@molly0xfff I can't believe these dweebs named it dweb.
groxx@molly0xfff yeah... at this point I think the only good solution is to bury web3/3.0. It's too tainted.
We already have the long-standing "dweb" and "semantic web" for other legitimate-web-3 claims, but I don't want any of them to provide even the *tiniest bit* of their legitimacy to blockchain scams. Plus, they lose nothing by abandoning web3, and gain "not related to NFTs!" as a benefit.
unexpectedteapot@molly0xfff maybe it wouldn't be the worst thing to reclaim "web 3.0" as actual and useful web technologies.
ficate@molly0xfff tor isn't decentralized