Ned YeungPreach it.
"History without discomfort is propaganda."
Big_in_Va@ned @WarnerCrocker so why do we keep having to rename things like buildings, streets and holidays and the such. I don’t get it history even though there’s bad it can’t be changed.
Warner Crocker@big_in_va Because history with OR without discomfort is propaganda.
@WarnerCrocker I think we should leave the things alone that make us all uncomfortable to avoid repeating some of the same mistakes that caused them. To many times I have seen things changed that people had no clue they were supposed to be offended by. The economic costs sometimes are not worth the benefits from what I have seen done so far. I always think of this my friend when these things are happening then rely on my faith to guide me. https://youtu.be/KqpcmQhnl48
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okanogen VerminEnemyFromWithin@big_in_va @WarnerCrocker
We name things to honor those named. It is correct to rename things to stop honoring those who shouldn't be honored.
We name things to honor those named. It is correct to rename things to stop honoring those who shouldn't be honored.
Ray ☭@Okanogen @big_in_va @WarnerCrocker Precisely. Changing a street or building name to no longer honor a confederate general isn’t altering history and it’s just dishonest to say so. They’re traitors, they don’t get buildings or statues. A lot of those places were named in the modern era by descendants and supporters of the Confederacy anyway.
It’s not historical, it’s celebratory.
@Okanogen @big_in_va @WarnerCrocker My family has always been in the south (well, since we were brought there) and to this day we have to grow up driving on roads, attending schools, and passing by statues dedicated to people who literally thought we were subhuman and deserved to be enslaved. It’s cruel and it’s wrong. These monuments are part of an active campaign to rewrite history and that can’t be forgotten. They’re not just some “historical” thing that can’t be changed.
@lawas @Okanogen @big_in_va Been watching this discussion with great interest. I have a few thoughts. As the USSR was being dismantled I happened to be witness to the statue of Felix Dzerzhinsky being torn down. A much older and wiser Russian theatre colleague was with me and said at the time something along the lines of "getting rid of all of these statues and symbols won’t change the horrible things they did. But../1
@lawas @Okanogen @big_in_va it will make it easier for the next guys to take advantage of those with shorter memories.”
And here we are.
I hate to use the word balance in a conversation like this, but I think there is a balance to be achieved so that we remember and honor the good and remember and learn from the bad when it comes to these issues.
Monument, street names, city names, heck, even memoirs aren’t handed down by any divine right, /2
@Okanogen @lawas @big_in_va Some In this country haven’t come to grips with the sins of our past as they have done in Germany. Plain and simple. It’s why I issue my twice weekly reminder that we’re still in a Civil War.