Mog SpawnWhich way looks more comfortable as you wait for your coffee?
Armok: God of BloodIn CA, my rent is close to $2k a month, but I can walk to basically everything I need to. In MI, my rent is $650 a month, but the closest coffee shop is miles away.
If your car gets 30 mpg, then you could drive 30 miles for less than $5 probably. It would be more frugal to drive and have the cheaper cost of living.
I don’t have a license which is why I’m not living in MI.
Uranium3006only because it's artificially constructed to be like that for the benefit of the car-oil industrial complex
Everything humans build is artificially constructed
specifically, in this case, euclidean zoning, FAR limits, skewed investment, unsafe intersections, oil subsidies, etc.
No, the roads were constructed so that people could travel from one place to another more easily. They existed before cars did, and people traveled on these old roads with horses and carriages. Many of the roads around where I live (in an area the government designates as rural) have historical markers that describe their history going back to the days of Colonial times.
That is only true if you prefer money over the environmental damage you do.
The minuscule amount of pollution that my fuel-efficient car produces is completely insignificant in the grand scale of planet Earth. So yes I do prefer having money to live on than worrying about that.
You can guilt trip me about my car after you succeed in getting millionaires to ground their private jets and when mega-corporations stop massively polluting everything around the world.
Sure, and throwing a can out of the window on a highway is also insignificant >.>
You have the exact same mentality as those millionaires you complain about.
Yeah if it’s all about money then go that route. You are also forgetting the cost of a car itself needed there which is a ton more than just the $5 cost of gas.
Otherwise walking gets you exercise which is better for your health in the long run and in general; the cafe gives a sense of a “third space” and community and the lack of a car is a ton better for both the environment and traffic which also affects everyone’s general health.
You know, it’s possible to live the walkable life in Michigan.
Right?
Live in MI. I walk a ton, but the closest dedicated coffee shop (Bigby) is 1.5 miles from me. There are, however, two restaurants that will also serve me coffee within .125 miles.
bob_wileyIt’s one of those things to keep in mind when looking for a place. They could live in downtown Ann Arbor and walk to a million coffee shops. It won’t be $650, but they might be able to find something for less than $2k (depending on what they’re looking for). Moving to CA for a walkable coffee shop is silly.
When I was looking for a place I wrote down the 5 places I went the most and would map out how long it would take to get to each of them and factored that into where I picked. If walkable coffee is important to someone, that’s easy to do pretty much anywhere in the country.