Mog SpawnReally, ….. it's my fault they built a terrible system?
Rufus Q. Bodine IIINo, but its your fault you’re still a teenager.
queryStuck in the carbonite again.
MagisterMy Y daughter is doing well, maybe it will be shitty for her to buy a house or condo but she can. My Z one, yeah, I’m helping her, paying stuff here and there like groceries, microwave, etc, she’s in her own flat and all and is not too bad but still, rent is 40% of her earning. It’s ok to help your kids.
That’s exactly not how generations work. You are one generation and your offspring are the next.
In the literal sense, yes, but not in the context of marketing cohorts, which are usually based on birth date ranges and are used to group members of society who experience similar pressures and exhibit similar behaviors. Gen Y/Millennial and Gen Z are marketing terms, so it’s possible for a parent to have a child in each.
Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I was trying to be funny but it totally missed the mark and fell flat. Oh well 🤷♂️ I do think it would be nice if we didn’t find ourselves referring to our social constructs in terms of marketing cohorts.
Should have ended with an /s
After Trump, it has become impossible to tell if someone is joking or serious.
Indeed I will surely remember next time! Thanks for the reminder 😅
Nonameuser678There’s also us zillenials born between 1990 - 1996. The defining feature is that we’re old enough that we were alive during 9/11 but were too young to understand the way it changed society at the time. Our formative years also occurred during both pre and post internet being everywhere.
What?
If you have 1 child born in 1995 and another born in 1999, then your children are of two separate generations.
I absolutely agree! It’s not a competition, we are all living in the same world with the same problems.
Families are at the centre of any society. Families function best when they help each other out. Parents are meant to sacrifice to help their children, just as their adult children should sacrifice later in life to help them.
Having been put in a situation where I had to physically care for my grandma while she lost her faculties and slowly died, I don’t think children (or any other descendants) sacrificing later in life to help parents is a good thing. If I could show you what a day of that was like, I think you might agree, but I wish it on no one.
it is okay to help but at the same time it sucks you have to do that because life is so economically insecure now that adult children cannot survive without that help.
In my own situation, my partner has a 25-year-old son who has autism and cannot be financially independent. We finance his $2,200 apartment (which is standard cost in our expensive city) because on his own he’ll never be able to do that . This will directly impact our own finances for the foreseeable future.
Nope this is Lemmy we hate kids here just like Reddit.
I have seen absolutely nowhere near the same hostility people on Reddit have towards children and their parents.
Seems like you’re pulling shit out your arse to cause a rile.
Wrong. This place is going to turn into an antikid circlejerk in no time. There are already childfree and kidsarefuckingstupid communities.
christ, I was really hoping to get away from that garbage.
Herr WolandCome on son, we worked hard and ruined the economy and the climate and the nature, now be a good boy and pay for our retirement.
Exactly this, it’s not even the fucked up economy state that scares me the most, it’s the state of ecology that may make the place uninhabited in the pretty near future 😢
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Dharma CuriousI mean, despite the rampant bootlicking seen in that generation, boomers didn’t create that system. They’re victims of it as well, just victims that generally refuse to see it. My mom absolutely has been fucked over by capitalism, and has fucked herself over helping her kids. But she acknowledges why, and agitates for something better. My dad is a victim of this shitty system, too, but was so brainwashed by cold war propaganda that he can’t see it most of the time. :/ tldr fuck the boomer politicians and brainwashers, try to help regular boomers realize they’re just as much a victim of this shit as we are.
SeraphLead poisoning really did a number on that generation. While I'm also angry that they were complacent in what's happened, as I refuse to be, it's like blaming a severely handicapped kid.
Did you know we found out to stop including lead in gas in 1976 because school kids were getting dumber and angrier?
We knew from the time Thomas Midgley put lead in gas it was toxic, but it was cheaper. He also introduced CFCs to the environment. Sherman Williams reported in 1904 that lead paint was bad, but it took until the 1970s for bans to start, but plenty of places still have no ban.
Milksteaks [he/him]The only solace in his detriment to humanity is that he died a terrible death. He got polio made a contraption to help him move around and got tangled and died of strangulation
what is nuts to me is that they still allow lead in fuel for race cars. If you live near a race track good luck.
Because it serves are purpose. People don’t just fill their race cars up with leaded fuel for the pleasure of paying a LOT more.
We’re aware that it does make a difference. In something completely unnecessary. You can enjoy life without polluting lead.
Probably should talk to the multiple other “sports” that allow it in FAR larger and more harmful ways.
Whataboutism
Motorsports are by far the most polluting form of sport per capita. Hardly anyone can partake in them and those that do inflect massive amounts of environmental damage. It’s ok to like something, but we should still be mindful of the negatives a hobby can cause so we can at least minimize the damage. Like golf is fine, but we don’t need to use so many pesticides and build golf courses in deserts.
lol you got a source on that claim, or is it a “I pulled it out my ass stat” because I find it pretty hard to believe.
The MASSIVE water consumption, in addition to pesticides, and the plastics used in golf balls (going with your example here) that are left in the wild, in addition to the significantly higher rate of people who play golf, are likely far worse for the environment than a handful of cars having some fun. I’m not saying racing isn’t bad for the environment. What I am saying is there are things that are FAR more common, and worse.
the amount of lead that is safe to have in the air is 0. there’s literally no safe level, it is 100% bad and it bioaccumulates; once it gets in you it never leaves.
there’s zero reason it should be allowed in any emissions, period. race fuels should not get an exemption and it’s only a matter of time until it’s fixed.
Clair Patterson lives!
I love how you all singled out a small subset of a pretty niche sport to be uptight about. No mention of avgas, which is used far more widely, and covers far more people. According to FAA nearly 250k planes still use it. They fly all over. They flyover your house, mine, everyone.
Or lead in ammunition, which is studied and proven to kill animals, and their young. The CA condor is a good example of it. They are still dying from lead poisoning, and lead ammo has been outlawed in CA. It only took until 2019 to outlaw it here, but I believe we are the only state. The recent fires here, that killed multiple condors proved that. At least one (probably more but I heard about this one) had lead in its system and when they went to try to find their young, they also had lead poisoning.
Oh and it’ll probably shock you to know, even in CA, you can go buy fuels (C16 and Q16 are the most common we see) and use them in street cars. Go to any classic American car show, and you can smell it. But yes, please single out a small subset of race cars as being the issue.
They are all an issue. Just because someone mentions one thing it does not mean the other things aren’t an issue also. If I tell you leaded race car fuel is an issue and should be banned, I am not telling you all other uses of exhausted lead are fine, or even “lees bad”. The post did but appear to be in any way constructed as an comparative analysis of lead use in order to author regulation from.
My point is that it’s likely the absolute smallest subset of use. There’s also a functional reason it’s used in race cars. Same is true of avgas.
There isn’t one for it being used in ammunition, for instance.
What is the functional reason?
And is it anything I would remotely care about?
Probably not, since everyone seems to have their minds made up, but it’s an antiknock agent. It can increase power output, but it also increases efficiency.
Tag365Wait, the California condor is having a population crisis due to lead poisoning? Why won’t they stop lead use immediately?
I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic but yeah, they have been dying of lead possessing since like forever. In the 90s, when the condor was something like 20 animals alive on the planet, organizations like the San Diego Zoo, started to push for the outlaw of lead ammo. It took until 2019 (apparently) to finally outlaw it here completely, yet the animals are still dying from it.
Lead poisoning from ingestion of lead ammunition is the most significant threat to condor survival, but other factors - including ingestion of microtrash and electrocution - also present challenges to condors as a species.per the national park service
Of the 213 condor deaths in the wild between 1992 and 2020, half (107) were due to lead poisoning, according to USFWS. according to us fish and wildlife
To answer your question why, people just don’t give a shit. Apparently lead is preferred because it’s softer than steel, and deforms in an appealing way for “hunters” and “gun enthusiasts”.
What happens if you get 20% lead in your body? How are you supposed to remove any of it from your body?
The thing to remember is that they had to rely on trusted authorities in the news or government back then. They didn’t have easy access to primary sources or alternate viewpoints that we have now. That’s why all they can do is pick an authority figure and put all their trust in them. They literally do not know any other way. To them “research” is finding a talking head they like or who looks “trustworthy” and then believing everything they say. It was an age of authority and now we’re moving into an age of transparency and they’re not happy about it. They expected that they would get their turn to be the trusted head of the family and now all their kids and grandkids barely want to talk to them.
Wow, that’s really eye opening in relation to my in-laws. You just put it all in perspective.
Flying SquidWhat retirements? What savings?
I’m 50 so not a boomer but I have no retirement savings. Zero. I do have adult children still living at home though.
Does the $200 left in my savings account after paying hospital bills count?
Imagine having this much hostility towards the future.
It’s like the last of the boomers in in some silo somewhere waiting to nuke the Earth on their way out the door and the rest of them know it.
FredselfishI actually know a Lot of boomers who feel just that way. My dad is one he thinks its their right to destroy the environment because they can’t live forever.
Then you have the christian nuts who want to destroy it so that jesus will return.
But most boomers want take the money with them and leave nothing to future generations. Hell they do want to burn it all down and they destroy the American dream out of greed.
The me generation that only want them to have it all.
Let’s have a purge city. Every year, let’s say like a Burning Man City. Every one can come together and we’ll nuke the city at the end of a week long party.
Generation of vipers
kshadeThe author of this article is not nearly old enough to be a boomer though. This is outrage bait.
SkybreakerI mean, is it really surprising that a generation full of Karens who have blamed other people their whole life for their problems are now blaming their posterity?
CalaveraAnd here we are, blaming other people for their problem as well, and mostly just the other regular Joe whose only fault is to be born earlier
No but “They built a terrible system.” if your parents were congressmen or business owners, you might have a point, but the actual affect the average person has on the system is negligible. The rich and powerful were going to destroy it. That’s why it doesn’t really matter who sits in the presidential chair, bad laws still get made, and only the absolute worst get repealed, because they all overall agree with the direction of the country, it consolidates their power when they get it.
Late Gen X with a Gen Z kid here, not contributing nearly as much to my retirement as I should be because I’m supporting her through college (without loans). We inherited this shit and we’re sacrificing ourselves for the sake of our kids. I don’t know who’s to blame, but we’ve been dealing with this shit out whole lives. Don’t blame us; we’re trying to help
Doing the same thing with my older son now. We are paying cash for his college so he doesn’t start out under a mound of debt like we did. It took over 10 years for us to dig out from under that load and start building assets.
My wife is 45 and we didn’t get her loans paid off until two years ago. And we only we were only able to do that because we sold our house at the absolute height of the COVID real estate market. She didn’t even have post-grad; just a bachelor’s
At least you can help your kids. My older daughter is going through college on loans which I don’t advocate but it is her choice. I can’t even keep my cars running.
bob_wileyHopefully she is at least keeping the loan spending in check. With how freely they give out the loans, some kids (and schools) treat it like funny money. I suspect that’s where most of them get into the really deep trouble.
You may be underestimating how expensive college is. I earned a full ride and worked three part time jobs in college. I am still paying off loans. A full ride doesn’t cover rent, food, transportation, lab fees, textbooks, school supplies, toiletries… Whatever expenses you have right now, those are the expenses kids in college have, they’re just spending so much time on homework and in class, they can’t earn enough to cover them at the time, and that gets you into trouble. If you aren’t lucky enough to have a full ride, and your only options are predatory loans because you don’t qualify for grants- that’s what gets almost all into deep trouble.