stop making the conversation about work-at-home about productivity

eliminating non-essential worker commutes means less fossil fuels wasted

remote policies increase access for disabled people, especially with chronic illness that flares

LGBT folks and PoC experience less bigotry and it's easier to report bigotry when they do

do some people want hybrid? do some people want on-site? sure

but stop pretending the discussion was about productivity or what employees want

it's about real estate portfolios

@deilann fully agreed, but tell that to the discourse manipulators in the media 8-D
Where the productivity angle becomes interesting is in the “kaiju fight” sense: there's an ongoing battle between the real estate rent seeing lobby and the “maximize profits by cutting expenses” class, and often local governments are on the rent seeker side because taxes. We need to force the balance on the other side to achieve what is best for the workers. The productivity angle helps there.
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@deilann even better it would be to manage to impose on the bosses all the costs of commuting, but we need a better organized workforce for that. 8-/

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@oblomov @deilann

This is something I have always view as odd. Why? Well, like when I have to drive to my Guard unit to do my drills. I get cover for that because that is driving to go to the place I am require to do work.

Yet....civis can't do the same for their jobs?

This not even getting into differences I have noted so much between civi and mil/gov side. Like some of the benefits afforded to mil/gov are consider top perks. But, if a civi dare to have similar, folks scream communism.