jroid8Windows 12
Kindof proud to say I never installed anything after Windows 10, including that.
Same after Windows 8.1 ! đĽł
Iâve had to use Windows 11 a tiny bit for work and it was the most painful experience I had for a while. Most apps I used on there had obvious bugs, like the VPN chosen by my company requiring me to reboot every time it goes to sleep âŚ
Actually I totally forgot 8.1 existed. đ Same here in that case!
XP for me!
insomniacI quit after Windows 2000. XP seemed like it just added bloat to force you to buy a new computer without adding anything useful and my computer wouldnât run it. I used 2000 until I couldnât any more then got an Ubuntu disc when they used to mail them out for free and never looked back.
s_sWindows 2000 was a low-key disaster, but I get not wanting to use the fisher-price interface.
But man, did Win2k fanboys beat that one point to death to try and slander XP . đ
IHeartBadCodeWindows 12: Paintbrush now comes with ads to Microsoft's subscription AI Paintbrush service. Also bucket fill is now a $0.49 DLC.
âWhat to make quick copies of certain areas of the image? Buy 100 packs of both âCopyâ and âPasteâ tokens now on sale in the Microsoft store! Each use of Copy or Paste function uses only 1 token. Make sure you stock up for âBack to Schoolâ!â
NetherFalconAnd don't forget! you have to pay to shut down your pc!
FrellwitNot only that. Pay to get even more ads and tracking!
What a deal!1!!!1
DLC? All we offer is a monthly weekly subscription.
Thatâs going to be in the free upgrade to Windows 10 and 11. Back porting some critical features to old, but still supported releases, is an essential part of good customer support.
ArghblargDonât let your guard down. Maybe this time theyâll fully pull the TPM/UEFI trigger and make it impossible to install any other OS on new PCs⌠they have lots of leverage over manufacturers to tighten the screws on the BIOS and boot process.
PikaI donât think they would hard shoot themselves in the foot like that thankfully. They would start with company graded devices before doing a consumer lockdown, since they are less apt to get massive backlash from that, they have tried already and backtracked iirc with lenovo systems
I hope youâre right. But the only reason it hasnât gone as far as it has it because everyone watches them and pushes back. I remember the ARM-based Windows laptops they tried pushing, which had fully-locked bootloaders (WinRT?) Thatâs their endgameâŚ
The CEO of Lenovo even said that he would like to sell laptops like smartphones (one every 1-3 years). Also the only reason why Windows 11 has high requirements is so that manufacturers can sell new hardware (Iâm running W11 on a 13 year old laptop (T510)).
Iâm looking for a source on the Lenovo thing but modern SEO shit doesnât make it easyâŚ
Haha I have read about the ways to defeat the bogus Win11 CPU checks. A fake check to enforce the upgrade treadmill!
Time to learn how to hack motherboards I guess
Time to not buy from shitty OEMs that agree to do this
The European Commission would appreciate the multi billion euro âdonationâ from Microsoft if they did something so obviously anti competitive.
I agree, but also when has a threat of afine ever stopped a capitalist from doing what they want?
Or doing it regionally
The kind of fines that are based on global revenue are at least enough to slow them down. Right now we are a bit in a phase of Whac a Mole phase of the EU doing new directives with these kinds of fines and American companies trying to find loopholes, but I donât see how Microsoft would weasel out of this one.
Also the US is interested in busting some trusts at the moment and that sort of behavior could cost Microsoft dearly. Itâs one thing to demand that your software only run on your hardware, itâs a whole other thing to pay companies to block their hardware from software you donât own
The funny thing is, they donât need to weasel out.
You block for competiton from working (dualbooting Linux users) for long enough they forget there is anything else, then you pull the claws back a bit to avoid the fines after the damage is already done.
Rinse, repeat.
iPhone 15 is heavily rumored to be USB-C. So⌠at least once?
Microsoft had to provide a separate edition that gave the user a browser choice for 10 years because the EU successfully called anti-trust on Windows doing IE/Edge as default.
Thatâs never gonna fly as long as the EU exists. Theyâd never allow it.
I sincerely hope youâre right :)
I have no idea what Windows 11 containsâŚ
DaveA start button that by default is not in the corner.
no bananaThatâs not the worst part. The worst part is how I can no longer have my taskbar on my second monitor. It is now locked to my first.
The worst part is how they make it nearly impossible to create a local user account. Itâs fine to have alternative account types, but thatâs not what I want on my own machine.
Yeah thatâs irritating as well.
EntropywinsI can on win 11...
Theyâve finally added it back? Tbh I never thought they would. Iâll have a look later.
Go to settings -> personalization -> taskbar. There are many different options for the display of the taskbar on multiple monitor setups.
Indeed there are. Not, since last I looked, an option to move the taskbar to another monitor without changing its priority.
I guess itâs been fixed since I last looked then! Iâll have to go through it. It wasnât there when I installed W11, but there was a promise of adding it. I just didnât expect that to happen.
I didnât realize the taskbar options werenât there at first for Windows 11. That would be very understandably annoying. The main pcs I use that have Windows 11 were just recently upgraded so I had no idea.
Yep. Thatâs the only way. Sadly many games have trouble handling that and start on the screen with the taskbar (which is my smaller screen in portrait orientation) with no way to move them.
In windows 10 I was able to just drag the taskbar to my second monitor without a problem.
System > Display > Personalization > Taskbar > Show my taskbar on all displays
Back in my days people were expected to at least try before shitting on software they didn't like, eh.
But mate, that doesnât do what I want
James_RyanThere is so much to critic about win 11
But that really is just personal preferenceâŚ
I donât actually use Windows 11 so this is the only thing I know to complain about.
Sure, which side is default (or other small nuisances) might be preference, but if you take away the option to customize (which was once there) the critic is valid IMO.
it's basically just windows 10 but reskinned, rebranded and released as a "new operating system"
suokoThey added android apps, they're slowly switching to Linux. It's going to be EdgeOS, maybe based on arch instead of gentoo? :-D
HikiruNah, they wonât. Then devs will start supporting Linux and windows will lose their one advantage over Linux: compatibility
Johnny BravoMalware
outside of the more neutral/negative features people mentioned, some of the major additions is better windows snap management (presets for organizing windows on a screen, and adjusting window sizes), and tabbed folders. Itâs also meant to be used for windows subsystem for android for android app usage, but you can technically do that with windows 10 with some workarounds.
The only interesting feature is WSL2 with the possibility to ânativelyâ mount Linux filesystems.
BlackmistItâs W10 but they moved the start bar to the middle so it looks more like a Mac.
Each new version of Windows is just Microsoft trying to further tighten the screws on its captive userbase.
Theyâve not brought anything of value to customers in years.
Theyâve not brought anything of real value to customers in years.
They made some half-decent BASIC interpreters for 8-bit computers. Thatâs about it.
RoundcatProbably only supports chromium browsers, such as the only browser you'll ever need Microsoft Explorer Edgeâ˘
Remember when Microsoft said Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows?