13-Year-Old Rape Victim Forced to Give Birth Due to Mississippi’s Abortion Ban

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I was raped when I was 14 years old. That was 35 years ago and despite years of therapy I still deal with that trauma. I cannot imagine what this child has gone through, to deal with being raped then forced to give birth to her rapist’s baby. My heart goes out to her and her family. Someone needs to let her know she matters.
That someone better not be a republican because we know for certain they don’t give a fuck about her.
For the love of everything, I wish Americans go to vote on the next elections

I wonder how many former pro-lifers this will create as people watch their younger siblings, cousins, and other loved one’s childhoods have their lives utterly ruined because they bought into theocratic propaganda about “the unborn”.

Every time something like this happens it should be proof that it was about control and cruelty towards women and girls.

Oh you damn well know that these hypocrites would be the first one to go out of state on a mid-school year vacation to have their moral abortion.

Growing up in rural Midwest twenty plus years ago we all heard that gossip about a few questionable vacations.

The people who wouldn’t be swayed would fall into either the hypocritical category above, or are the people who would actually would cruelly force a family member to go through something akin to what happened in the article above, because they believe in the “blessing” or because they’re also forcing their kid to marry the rapist, but I’m referring to people who are otherwise well-adjusted but are ignorant of the wider world and have a sanitised view of abortion as something “out there” and “far away” from their life.

Less than you think. These people do not hold punches with family. They might even be harsher on their own family since they "should know better" and "weren't raised like that".

On the LGBTQ front, families have done more damage to them than any random individuals ever did.

I’m operating on the basis that most people, do in fact, love their family members and want them to live happy, fruitful lives. If someone doesn’t want that for their loved ones then what I’m saying wouldn’t apply. Someone who is “normal” but not radicalized, in the sense that they may be reflective of society’s inherent prejudices and have views shaped by them, but are repulsed by overt displays of racism/sexism, would probably be horrified.
I think you would be sadly disappointed by the number of ‘normal’ parents in the world.
I disagree. The internet distorts people’s perceptions. “Normal” people support reproductive rights, no-fault divorce, and other common targets of the religious right because that’s what’s in line with how they actually and practically live their lives. Most people are mortified to hear about a 13-year-old being forced to give birth, that’s why the people who oppose abortion have all sorts of excuses (or outright claim the stories are fake) in these scenarios because they know what they’re defending is shocking to normal, well-adjusted people.
It’s not the internet we’re basing our perceptions on. It’s election results.
Then you should be encouraged, every time it’s been on the ballot, abortion has been protected or expanded since roe was struck down. Just last week, Ohio voted down an amendment meant to make it harder for a pro-choice amendment legalizing abortion this November, which is also expected to pass. Politicians are acting in spite of voters.
I’m somewhat encouraged, but there are still far too many fascist voters for my comfort.

I sort of believe that at any given moment, most countries host between 15-30% of its population that could be considered fascist. This isn’t a problem with a civically engaged populace that can easily take part in elections, which is precisely why the right wing wants to control the “quality of voter” and make it into a privilege, not a right.

The US in particular has structural problems that have, since it’s inception, unfairly benefited the most reactionary segments of the US population, more so than even other liberal democracies.

Unfortunately with the way elections are set up, it doesn’t properly show the will of the people. A winner takes all for congressional seats I’d say generally push only the extremes to the forefront.

There should be ranked choice voting to allow a better chance for third parties and to have a better allocation of representatives of what the people actually think and want.

Love for them is synonym of keeping the baby even after rape. The baby is a gift of god even after a rape.

It’s disgusting but people really think like that after being brainwashed by the GOP and religion.

Not the people I’m talking about. Far more people hold partially formed, vague opinions about these things than believe in the Christian rights view entirely.
I believe they will defend it since they literally see that fetus as a human being, thus an abortion is immoral in any and all situations.
Only the most radicalized of people, which I’m explicitly not referring to.
Quit saying “pro-life”. The very name they use for themselves is a disgusting lie.
I think that many people identify as pro life are simply ignorant, so if I want to change that, I’m not gonna get very far by calling them anti-choice because they’ll immediately shift into the defensive.
Anti-choice not pro-life. Pro-cruelty would also be acceptable.

AMERICA!

Sucks, yeah!

Coming to ruin the mother fuckin day yeah!

This will just be the first of many. There have already been three documented cases in Ohio of minors who were sexually assaulted and were forced to go out of state for an abortion and thankfully since they could afford it.

But then again this is what Republicans support and want, the cruelty is the point because they think this thirteen year old asked for it.

Classic GOP byline. It’s their fault until it’s their kids (or their baby, republicans have a long and arduous history of sex crimes)
Hopefully, that won’t be the case much longer in Ohio with November’s ballot question. (the GOP just failed to make it harder to pass by trying to make all constitutional amendments require 60% to pass after polling showed it would by 58%)
This is exactly what conservatives want. Poor people dependent on the government.
Not dependent on the government, dependent on late stage capitalism.
Or maybe dependent on their church in some circumstances.
I’ve known a couple of those. Might even be related to one…

Wouldn’t conservatives want the opposite? More local governance with more personal freedom?

I do agree that the abortion should be pro-choice, but it seems like you’re expanding it to be much larger than just this issue.

Poor people are generally uneducated people. And uneducated people are easily led because they are easily scared. This is why you don’t see many conservatives in favor of higher education or any policy that funds schools. Dumb people believe lies much easier than smart ones.

So no- conservatives don’t want the opposite. They want an America entirely reliant on them.

So they want to keep people poor and stupid to control them? I can’t really argue for or against that right now as I’m not that conservative myself.

To my understanding, Republican / Conservative tend to be closely aligned. Republican tends to favor more local control and decision making while puts the direct citizens in more control of their lives. That has a side effect of sometimes a local population might make what’s perceived as silly or stupid decisions, but it’s what they want.

The other side tends to go for big government with more control because to enact a lot of the policies they want done, they need that power and control. It also has a side effect of sometimes placing inefficient policies that don’t take into account specific circumstances in a particular area. A possible example would be banning motors running on gas in a rural area with no infrastructure to support that kind of change. Not to mention the hindrance on those doing important jobs like food production.

Yeah. No. I looked through your comment history. Mainly because every time I see someone claiming to be an independent/libertarian, I almost always see that they’re just a conservative that’s too cowardly to commit to the bit.

And you’re no different.

You are a contrarian to nearly ever single liberal viewpoint and share conservative ideology to a fault. You’ve no critical opinions about any conservative policy, and seem to only criticize all liberal democratic policy.

I don’t debate with disingenuous people.

My account isn’t very old and many of the posts were mostly within the same thread about the same topic. It’s not like I’d discuss everything I think in a single thread.

Feel free to ask me what I think about specific topics and I’m most likely willing to share.

I don’t debate with disingenuous people.

Poor people dependent on the government are some of their favorite boogeymen used to justify taking away any social service they can.
"Pro-life" strikes again. Apparently, "life" means being forced to endure rape and life-threatening birth-giving.
I think there's a George Carlin quote about it, or if not him another comedian. They should be called pre-life because that's all they care about. The minute you're born you're fucked.
Sure sounds like the kind of joke Carlin would have made. I was alive for most of his heyday and never really appreciated the guy until he was gone. :-(

It’s free to insist these unwanted pregnancies are brought to term.

Virtually all of them freely admit that they will actively fight any attempts to have society tangibly help this forced mother or unwanted child.

They literally want the child to be born because “pro-life” people revel in the cruelty of “I want people to suffer as much as possible for my amusement and schadenfreude.”

As always, the cruelty is the point
Please stop using the term Pro Life, because these people are anti-abortion, they don’t give a fuck about life or lives.
If the state is going to mandate birth, then the state should be covering the cost of raising the child. Make Mississippi pay child support.
I think I’ve heard about some people getting away with using carpool lanes while pregnant on the basis that they had “two passengers” in some conservative states.

“It’s about protecting the kids!”

Says everyone who supported this ban

“actually, it’s about protecting MY kids, who I would NEVER let this happen to, who fucking cares about some OTHER parent’s child?”
The next move for republicans is parental rights for rapists. The party of forced birth for child brides.

You’re behind. That’s already happened a few times. Here’s a couple examples.

nbcnews.com/…/louisiana-woman-says-rapist-was-cus…

news.yahoo.com/man-raped-12-old-awarded-114904992…

Louisiana woman says her rapist was given custody of her child in ongoing court dispute

A Louisiana woman said a court gave temporary custody of her daughter to the man who raped her when she was 16, a recent development in a yearslong legal

NBC News

This made my stomach turn so I wanted to see if I could find out about the judge in the 2nd link who gave the order. It appears he changed the decision and this was a bit of an admin error (although not sure on the details).

mlive.com/…/judge_reverses_decision_granti.html

Judge reverses decision in 'paternity case that went horribly wrong'

"I want to emphasize, at the time I signed the (initial order) on Sept. 22, 2017, I did not know that the defendant had raped the plaintiff," the judge said.

mlive
Party of “family values.”

You should link to the full article.

https://time.com/6303701/a-rape-in-mississippi/

She Wasn’t Able to Get an Abortion. Now She’s a Mom. Soon She’ll Start 7th Grade. 

After the fall of Roe v. Wade, some travel hundreds of miles to get an abortion. This is the story of a girl who couldn't.

Time
Absolutely horrible. That poor girl.
This is one of the things to remember the next time someone tries to "both sides" some discussion about the ills of Republican control, and one of many demonstrable impacts they have made in their rampage through our legal and legislative bodies.

democrats had the ability to codify abortion rights as law several times. they didnt.

they do not give a shit about you either.

Love the vote blue crowd down voting. Sorry snowflake but your precious Democrats are just as guilty. Despite the bullshit lies they told, this didn’t just come from out of nowhere. Everyone knew from day one of Roe v. Wade that shit needed to be codified. But naw “we’re to busy.” Now we’re here. Dems can rot in hell with their Republican friends
Ah so the party who should have done more to stop the other party from taking away abortion as an option from this 13 year old girl is just as guilty as the party who actually took abortion as an option away from this 13 year old girl. Got it.