Sam Bell
Alice MarshallThe Elite's War on Remote Work Has Nothing to Do with Productivity
The elite are trying to whip everyone back to the office to avoid a commercial real estate crash.
https://www.okdoomer.io/heres-why-they-want-you-back-at-the-office-so-bad/
Mark vW@AliceMarshall Headline touts an unargued and highly speculative analysis.
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Daniel S. Reichenbach@AliceMarshall can we stop calling these people elite? Call them scum. They are nothing else.
Peter Principle@AliceMarshall And to keep tighter control of our working lives. Don't forget that.
JL Roberson@AliceMarshall Absolutely. That's certainly driving it near here in SF. But then there's also billionaires not paying rent like #ElonMusk
Edwin Young@AliceMarshall What's interesting in this argument is that it supposes the elite look out for each other's companies. Company A which leases office space has to pay a bunch of money to company B which owns the building, but it's A that decides whether to force workers back to the office. Why would they do that, given that it costs them 💰 - class solidarity? (Maybe true, I'm not discounting it!)
I am your spirit animal@edyoung @AliceMarshall I could imagine that those who are with company A might have invested money in company B. Or at least have someone close to them who did.
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@AliceMarshall I'd be more sympathetic to this if I hadn't been warned every day of the coming commercial real estate crash every day since August 2008.
Literally every day.
"The market can remain irrational longer than anyone one person can remain liquid" etc etc
Literally every day.
"The market can remain irrational longer than anyone one person can remain liquid" etc etc
Yuri Vorontsov@AliceMarshall An interesting idea.
PappyI believe there's a lot more going on here than commercial real estate companies needing a bailout. Remote work has revealed how poorly managed many of these companies are, how inefficient and disorganized. Corporate executives understand that it is much, much more difficult to hire competent management than it is to force a bunch of low paid office workers back into the office. So, I would say, in a sense, it is about productivity. The lack of productivity from management.
Noir Lover@AliceMarshall add to this the tomfoolery in the rental market that has caused massive spikes in rents, so younger people especially cannot afford to live in cities and go to the office
Token Sane Person@AliceMarshall Would this action by one employer make enough of a difference to real estate prices to make this a worthwhile proposition for that employer? I don't think so.
If not, your claim implies some kind of coordination whereby all the employers have agreed to do this for their collective good, plus some mechanism for punishing defectors. In other words, a conspiracy.
Do you have evidence of this conspiracy?
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness
The Omniscient Council of Vagueness - TV Tropes
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Grant McSheffrey@AliceMarshall @the5thColumnist Capitalists are convinced that socialists are being secretly paid off to espouse the views they have and socialists are convinced that capitalists get together and decide on actions that are suboptimal for them individually but help the group.