GodricHumans, apparently, throw like gods
kadupretty much all of our sports
The rest of the post is great, but this is simply not true
sarsaparilyptusJust he good ones
You can throw things at any sports.
If you’re not a coward.
NeatoEnglish hooligans checking in.
Chess referees hate this!
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Soccer includes accurate throwing from the goalie. I'd posit that hitting a projectile with a stick accurately is a close cousin of throwing.
That's all the big ones in US and EU that I can think of.
Baseball, basketball, soccer, football, cricket, rugby, hockey, what am I missing?
Lacrosse, European Handball
Good catches. They both fall under throwing, too.
The post says “based around the concept of throwing”, including soccer in that list is a stretch - soccer is entirely based on our great control over our legs and feet, the goalie throwing the ball is an afterthought.
the goalie throwing the ball is an afterthought.
Games have been lost for less.
You’re literally punished for hitting the ball with your hand in football. Have to agree with you here, bar the terminology.
That’s because we are too good at throwing balls with our hands. That’s the exception that proves the rule.
hard disagree; “concept of throwing”, imo, is accurately predicting some complicated physics and then making the split second adjustments to fling an object from your body elsewhere with enough force to be useful; that it’s kicking rather than hand based doesn’t seem relevant imo, it’s still about accuracy and weird spin and dexterity.
I’d posit that hitting a projectile with a stick accurately is a close cousin of throwing.
That’s just throwing with extra steps.
Ditto kicking.
Football hooliganism is also based around accurate throwing of objects.
Soccer is just throwing with your feet
“pretty much all” is a stretch, but it’s hard to disagree with that throwing things accurately is an aspect of a lot of our sports. And definitely the extreme dominant trait in American sports.
Yes - humans can throw things so some sports feature throwing.
Humans can kick, so some sports have kicking. Humans can punch, guess what, sports have punching. Humans can think logically, would you be surprised to hear about mind games?
I’d be more shocked if we had sports based around flying naked or extracting energy from sulphuric salts.
You’re kinda intentionally missing the point.
If you had to pick one uniquely human aspect to group together as many sports as possible, what would you pick?
Teamwork is out because wolves hunt in packs and lions hunt in prides. Logic is arguable, everything we do is based in either emotion or logic, so it’s not a good answer imo.
So what do you have left? Kicking and throwing are probably your best bets.
what would you pick?
If I want to create a set with the largest amount of sports? They’re team based. Humans are particularly good at forming teams, recognizing team members, allocating mental tasks to others and deep communications. In fact, these characteristics are a very large reason behind our taste for sports and cheering.
team work is out
Huh… if team work is out because wolves can do it, throwing objects is out because several animals can do it.
You might say they can’t do it as well as us… but wolves can’t do team play as well as us, so the argument is the same.
MrJameGumbYeah, most species take FOREVER to get the hang of projectile weapons and us big brained humans only took like 5.5 million years to perfect it! That’s practically no time at all!
The first wars were thought to be a bunch of people facing off and throwing rocks and sticks at each other. We’ve been throwing shit for as long as we could walk
We invented the flame thrower. I know George Carlin did the bit best but… Imagine explaining that to a group of aliens.
“You… you throw what now?”
“Flames, bro.”
“For what purpose…?”
“Well, We had these people called Nazis and they liked to hide in concrete fortifications so we figured the best way to make them not be in there would be to fill it with fire.”
“Does that not harm these ‘nazis’?”
“Oh yeah, it harms them. That was like, a bonus.”
“Well, It was nice meeting you. Goodbye forever.”
But wait! Let us tell you about the mustard gas!
Or white phosphorus! Wait, wait… how about the inquisition? Or the rape of south america or the roman catholic church…
Damn, why does everybody leave?
King Leopold and the Belgian Congo.
“So we created these chemicals for wars…”
“Ah, killing the enemy efficiently!”
“Well, no.”
“So they knock them out temporarily?”
“Haha, not exactly…”
“Then they’re useless?”
“No. They just really mess them up. It goes into their body really easily and it’s super carcinogenic, permanently fucks their DNA up, basically eats their skin, probably causes them to go blind, and will make them mentally fucked up. But it takes hours for them to notice the effect.”
“…What the hell is wrong with you guys?”
ricdeh… however, flamethrowers were fielded by the Germans first, and already in the previous World War.
Uh, you ought to read about what the British did in that war. They hid a bunch of massive, buried pop-up flame throwers in no-man’s land and used them to cook a bunch of Germans.
JoeBigelowThat’s so metal.
I Cast Fist“Laughs in greek fire” - Greek sailors in 1200s
Monkeys have both force and accuracy when pelting humans with feces.
This is just inaccurate.
It’s just a good rule of thumb to write off science memes as bullshit.
blazerathey do not
Seems like while on average a human can be expected to "naturally" throw better than a monkey, most monkeys are perfectly capable of learning to throw with skill comparable to a human.
Sources:
did you read your sources? "The researchers found no evidence for “aimed throwing."
I'm not sure how you're getting that impression. The quote you put there doesn't show up in the paper even once, and in fact if you search for "aimed throwing" you'll see several instances where they discuss the aimed throwing accuracy of the monkeys. Even in just the abstract there's a few places where they make it clear the monkeys are aiming (and additionally that's what they were measuring).
For both species we found positive correlations between target distances for throwing accuracy, direction and strength of hand preference, percentage of bipedal vs tripedal throws, and percentage of overarm vs underarm throws.
In fact, they go so far as to clearly state that the monkey throwing is a suitable model of human throwing, meaning that the way they throw is similar enough to us that we can actually learn about ourselves from it.
We believe that the capuchin monkey is an informative nonhuman primate model of aimed throwing in humans and that research examining the throwing behavior of capuchins provides insight into the neurological and behavioral characteristics that underlie coordinated multi-joint movements across the primate order.
Anyway, that's all the time I'm gonna spend on this mythbusting lol.
I made a humourous claim that seemed logical, and when some good decided to claim I’m wrong, you swooped in with facts.
You’re my favourite.
I copy and pasted the quote. It's from the second source
I wanna see Curious George lining up under center fire an NFL team now.
I need a mass effect comic of this, with garrus just like “how do I learn this power” or something
Garrus is a better shot than Shephard, soooo…
Shooting =/= throwing
Btw have we seen him throw before? I’m genuinely curious
Did they throw the cans (or whatever it was) in the shooting competition? I don’t quite recall
Grenades?
Sir Isaac newton would be proud
Inverse Kinematics is really cool. Whenever you move your hand to a position, you're only thinking of your hand moving to that position, but there's an order of operations you dont even think about. For your hand to be in the right spot your forearm has to be in the right spot, and for your forearm to be in the right spot your upper arm has to be in the right spot. Your brain subconsciously calculates those movements. This enables very accurate motions, your hand can follow a smooth, deliberate arc towards your target
If only my 3d printer was so easy to control.
Clearly, you should drop it for a resin printer
Oh I’m planning on getting a resin printer in the future. It’s just I’m renting right now, and have a toddler, so it’s difficult to properly ventilate the fumes outside currently. Once I buy a house, that’s going to be one of the first things I buy. Do you have any recommendations for something hassle free that I won’t have to tweak for 6 months before it prints well?
And most people actually suck at it. Source: I do martial arts. Also, my Grandma taught me knitting same principle applies: If you start doing it with your fine motor skills, letting those influence your gross motor posture, you’re going to cramp up in no time. Easy and relaxed does the job, move from the shoulders (or even belly), don’t even move your fingers just keep them static knitting doesn’t really require you to move them. Doesn’t matter when all you’re doing is opening a door or such but for repeated movements, or forceful ones, or ones that need to be stabilised against adverse forces (like a block) it becomes crucial.
Footbal literally penalises you for touching the ball with your hand?
Then that sport obviously doesn’t apply here, does it?
OP said “pretty much all our sports” the most popular sport worldwide is the opposite. Thought it was worth mentioning.
They throw it in from the sides with their hands, and it’s better to be able to throw it hard and accurately when you do that.
Face!
I’d say the fact you can’t use your hands is what makes it stand out and makes it more impressive