rr7The greatest country in the world
09/08/2023
(I’m an American who doesn’t care what everyone in my country uses if that “custom” is nonsense…)
I see an brave! Inspire!
Im a Canadian, and unfortunetely we use both formats, with no context.
Which is why written down or typed without a format prompt I use “12 Aug 2023”
Do you use metric? :)
I use Fahrenheit just because it’s a pain to get everything set to Celsius and other Americans don’t understand it. But I use grams, kilos, millilitres, kilometres, etc. Yes. And if someone asks me to guess the length of an object I will give centimetres, and refuse to translate to inches and their stupid fractions.
Yes. And if someone asks me to guess the length of an object I will give centimetres, and refuse to translate to inches and their stupid fractions.
Some proud neckbeard shit right here. “Fuck communicating effectively with people. They don’t even know I only use the metric system!”
But yeah, got em… I guess.
I kind of get it, it’s like language immersion. How do you easily describe anything besides the freezing point and boiling point of water in an objective way? The rest, you can point to and say “this weighs a kilo” ot “this holds a liter.” And if you don’t force people to use it, they’ll simply refuse. And we all carry handy unit conversion tools with us wherever we go these days, so if they don’t want to learn, they can easily translate it themselves.
illectrilitySo you use Fahrenheit because Americans don’t understand Celsius but you don’t convert to imperial for them if they don’t understand? That just seems inconsiderate as it’s really no trouble at all
NacktmullGoddamn German memes invading everywhere.
Ein Volk!
Ein Reich!
Ein Kommentarbereich!
I like to think of the American style as machete ordering for dates.
Aug 9, 2023 and 08/09/23 literally say the same thing.
They do but one informs the reader of the order of the format while the other doesn’t.
Why not do it like the Germans? 08.09.2023
Different format would avoid confusion about the order.
Different format would avoid confusion about the order.
harl3k1nAugust 9th 2023 would be 09.08.2023 in Germany though 😉
ivanafterallAlso changing it to periods doesn't avoid confusion about the order. Also pretty sure we fought a whole war over not being like the Germans, so...
It’s quite simple really. The order is “small to big”. You start with the smallest unit, in this case the day. Then follows the next largest unit, the month, and finally the year. Basically the same as in the top picture, but in reverse order.
ebits21The first isn’t ambiguous at all; the second is hella ambiguous.
It’s only ambiguous because there’s a second standard.
Is 08/09/2023 August or September? What about 08.09.2023? Do you see where the problem lies?
08/09/23 literally says the 8th day of september.
deejay4amNo, the second one says “Sept. 8th 2023” and that last panel is obviously British (you can tell by the teeth) /s
That’s why I write 9 Aug ‘23
NoStressyJessieIf it’s a file I want sorted by date the top is good. If I am talking about a date and spelling it out August the 9^th of 2023 makes the most sense and seems natural, and if it’s a personal memo or date label on food I just use 08/09 with the zeros so I know it isn’t a fraction unless it’s frozen or shelf stable for long term storage where the year would be useful to know at which point it becomes 8/9/23
I thought everybody used different date formats based on need.
In UK we always say 9th of August 2023, ie the way our dates are written and i would say is more natural haha. Maybe Americans find it more natural the other way around because your dates are other way around. If you use the date system the uk has maybe it would sound more natural to speak perhaps.
I grew up on RuneScape and BBC programming, so I’ve been exposed to both formats for a long time (really fucked me up in spelling). I couldn’t say why August 9th sounds more natural, but it’s probably because most irl folks around me use it. The 9th of August didn’t sound bad, just more artificial, and it’s probably because my exposure to that spoken out was mostly media and pop culture.
Gonna cry?
Dear non-Americans: it's called a decimal point, not a decimal comma! You can complain once you've fixed your own dumb formats. Let me guess, it will cost 1.000.000,00 clown dollars.
ISO 8601 or nothing. Descending order of granularity, keep everything sorted as it should be!
RFC 3339, because ISO is not free.
Tell me more? I can look it up but I’m curious if anybody ever got problems from using a standard like that
ISO charges for their standards
My personal preference is DD-MM-AAAA, but as someone that works with lots of data from different formats and timezones… I have to agree with you…
YYYYMMDD and UTC should be the global default.
annum annum annum annum
I’ve said it once and I will say it again:
mkdir -p 2023/{January,February,March,April,May,June,July,August,Septembet,October,November,December}
Warning: not POSIX
darcyew ew ew no please no :'(
ddhOh my god, why would they do this
Why no? It will make your life way easier
9AUG2023
DD/MM/YYYY is the best in my opinion
🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 🏆I agree with this because if you were to say the whole thing verbally, you generally start with the day, the month then the year.
“It is the 9th of August in the year of our Lord 2023.”
Baby Shoggoth [she/her]In the USA most people would say “august 9th”, not “the 9th of august”, which is one of the reasons mm/dd/yyyy is the standard format here
Which extrapolated, who the fuck would say “the September of 2024” and not “September, 2024” for example
This is actually often done when trying to be more eloquent or dramatic or add importance, like how Independence day is The 4th of July versus just saying Jily 4th.
Not sure if you’re joking but “the 9th of August” is short for “the 9th [day] of August,” so if you think of it that way, your “the September of 2024” extrapolation isn’t really fair. It’d be more like “the 9th month of 2024” which actually would be reasonable if months didn’t have names, but they do.
We wouldn’t in America in most cases. I’d say it’s August 9th 2023. I honestly feel like this is such a dumb argument to have because it doesn’t matter except for communication with people who use other methods. Now metric vs imperial makes way more sense to me because the metric system is just so much easier for mathematical conversions.
In metric, one milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade—which is 1 percent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. An amount of hydrogen weighing the same amount has exactly one mole of atoms in it. Whereas in the American system, the answer to ‘How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon of water?’ is ‘Go fuck yourself,’ because you can’t directly relate any of those quantities.
jballsI like how Europeans pretend they’re all scientific, but then still use seconds, minutes, and hours without thinking twice.
Lmao Europe is not the only place where they use metric (I’m not European).
Seconds are part of the metric system and are the base unit of time. Just because they didn’t define it initially doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist or makes sense. They use milliseconds and kiloseconds; minutes and hours are used for convenience but are not part of the SI
YYYY-MM-DD is better if you need to sort
MisterFrogIf it weren’t so ingrained, I would be permanently using YYYY-MM-DD instead of DD/MM/YYYY.
Works great for east Asia, and it sorts!
I’d also like to advocate for using 24 time in speech.
See you at 21 tomorrow :)
Just don’t care and use them. People understand them. Maybe they’re not used to hearing it, but it doesn’t matter. This is what I do and never cam across someone who was so dense that he didn’t understand me. I also never had someone tell me that it was strange to do so.
henfredemarsThe first and the last date format are terrible because you can confuse the day of the month with the number of the month.
I only like date formats where it’s not possible to confuse any field, like 8 Aug 2023. I minimize ambiguity.
For actually displaying dates to others, I agree that spelling out the month is absolutely preferred. But if space is limited, you're somewhat required to pick a very shortened format, and the US version is dumb, even if that's what you should use when displaying in that locale.
But for working with dates on computers, year-month-day works great, because it's still human readable, is naturally sortable, and makes it easier for serialization.
The first one is conventionally never year-day-month, and if anyone ever sent me a date of 2023-17-08, I would respond with, "What the hell?! Are you being evil on purpose?"
I was unaware of this. But it uses the same logic as the British date format so I am okay with it.