Is there a name for the phenomenon where the general public won't stop mentioning a solution that they /imagine/ will be standard one day without knowing the details behind it?
That's a word salad but like, "plug type won't matter once wireless charging becomes the norm" is, uh, a sentiment few people who know much about electricity transmission and electric vehicles will agree with, yet it's repeated ad nauseum.
@Greg But with a dash of mass-delusion?
Delusion's not the right word. But something like that.
@Greg @TechConnectify In terms of wishes, it'd be pretty cool if we could overcome the multitude of issues and limitations (efficiency, cost, power limits, etc)
But uhhhh yeah, seems pretty damn unlikely.
@TechConnectify we get the same thing "oh it'll all be wireless soon" with internet connectivity right? I don't know about your part of the world but I regularly hear people talking as if "well 5G means we don't need wires ever anymore because it's faster than the wired connection I have at home right now".
People just want a glowing rectangle connected permanently to everything but also to nothing and I can see how that might *feel* close but just ... no.
in the novel I'm writing in my head, the future airwaves are so clogged with wireless signals that you have to pay for priority and there are sort of "internet ATMs" dotted around where you dock your phone to use the internet at any reasonable speed.
@TechConnectify ignorance on repeat.
It's sad that one quick look into the technology behind wireless charging will show just how power inefficient it is, yet many people would rather assume the cool-looking tech will be the winner than take two minutes to read up on its its potential shortcomings.
Reminds me of... well... ALL the gadgetbahns out there, promising the same solutions that a robust transit system for that region could have been solving all this time.
New and shiny gets pushed because new and shiny is sexy, and old tech is old and rusty and dingy and boring and doesn't sell tickets very well. It doesn't matter if it's a tried and true tech, companies would rather be pretending to experiment on the edge for a buck than provide a cheap reliable service no one gives much mind to.
@TechConnectify Ugh. Wireless charging is NOT what I would consider a "solution"; it just can't be as efficient, nor can it be as fast.
I would think if some of these people had both a wireless charger and a sizable power brick with a USB cable, they might see this.
@3DPrintingDad I have found that most people don't make those sorts of connections unless you show them.
Hence... my job!
I'm guessing that the name Tesla has special impact on that meme.
Some people are irrationally wedded to the (appealing) idea of wireless electric power, and some of *those* know that Nikola Tesla worked toward that goal. So they'll cheerlead for it at any opportunity.
@derek
Ooooo, that one's good. I'm gonna use that.
@BernardRR @ragrum for clarity, I'm aware that there have been demonstrations that have efficiency on par with wired installations.
But I can't see a world in which wireless inductive pickups on cars is a truly reasonable cost to add to the vehicle, and charging infrastructure is a lot more expensive, too.
In the real-world, I can't see it as practical. Another solution in search of a problem, imo
@ragrum @BernardRR I honestly still see wireless charging as more of a hassle in that case. Overhead contact points with retracting charging paddles on the bus is, at least on a gut -level, the simpler, more powerful, and more robust option.
Ultimately wireless charging is simply trying to remove the need for operator action to charge, and it's by no means the only avenue to that end.
@BernardRR @ragrum not to mention that even if we do make a successful and inexpensive inductive pickup device for the car, it's gonna be in a very vulnerable spot.
So it's like, we'll add a ton of cost to both car and infrastructure to, at best, meet wired efficiency and create a ton of new problems in the process... or we just connect the car right to the grid.
The latter seems like a pretty sensible choice to me.
@TechConnectify
Quantum Computers are super fast.
No, they are not.
@TechConnectify another example, at least here in the Netherlands: don't get solar panels or wind turbines, nuclear power will solve everything.
What they forget is that that takes a long time to build and will face even stauncher NIMBYs. If you don't want a solar park in your back yard, you are sure as hell not wanting a nuclear power plant either.
As for a term for that: uninformed optimism?
@TechConnectify What annoys me to no end is how proponents of wireless charging almost always forgets the inverse square law and how it works, and its limits.
There's a reason cable charging will always be superior, much like how wired Internet will always be superior for, ironically, similar reasons.
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