It's Almost Impossible To Find A Decent Used Car Under $20,000

Vehicles under $15k are 1.6% of the market, and their share of the market has dropped over 90% since 2019. The old advice that you can get a beater and drive it in to the ground for $5k hasn't been true for years but it still seems pervasive in personal finance spaces.

https://jalopnik.com/its-almost-impossible-to-find-a-used-car-under-20k-1850716944

It's Almost Impossible To Find A Decent Used Car Under $20,000

Sub-$20,000 cars comprise about 12 percent of the market today compared to almost 50 percent in 2019

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I grew up hearing all sorts of addages about vehicles. “New cars lose tons of value as soon as you drive off the lot, so you’re much better off buying used”.

Once I grew up and started buying my own cars, I learned that the best miles a car has are usually right out of the factory. The sound dampening wears over time. The foam in the seats wears out. Scratches accumulate, colors fade, odors accumulate. Hoses leak, mechanicals fail.

A lot of this can be fixed, or mitigated with proper maintenance. But the ultimate lesson I learned is that the resale value only matters if you actually intend to sell the car while there is still meat left on the bone. I’m fine driving a car into the ground until it’s scrapped, so I don’t factor resale value into my purchasing decisions.

Even back in 2018 I noticed the price gap between new and used cars wasn’t as wide as I remembered it being back in 2011. I ended up with an Impreza with ~12k miles for $17k, but a new one would have been just over $20k. I was strapped for cash at the time, but I wonder if a new car would have been a better value even back then.

Yeah, it’s very much YMMV. I got a Prius for ~$10k w/ <60K miles about 10 years ago, and new models were going for >2x that (I think MSRP was ~$25k). It now has 145k miles and has needed practically no repairs (maybe $2k?). So at the time, used was absolutely a better deal.

Today, a similar car would go for >$20k, and MSRP is similar ($28k-ish). So today, buying new is absolutely a better deal, if I can get it for MSRP (pretty big if these days).

So if I can get more than half of the useful life for significantly less than half of MSRP, used makes a ton of sense. But that’s not really a thing today. Had I bought new when I bought my car, I could probably get $20k+ for it today. I didn’t, so I can only really get $5k or so, but that’s still a great deal given that I put on nearly 100k miles over ~10 years.

I plan to drive my car until it dies, so I’m basically saving $15k or so buying used. If I bought today though, I’d buy new because used doesn’t make financial sense to me.

Toyotas and Hondas have pretty huge markups right now. A new Prius for example (in Texas at least) costs 39k (with taxes and everything) for the base trim.

I’m seeing advertisements for MSRP for both Prius and Civic, so ~$30k for 2023 model years for base trim. This is before taxes, just advertised price, so maybe $35k out the door after taxes, registration, fees, etc.

That said, I haven’t requested a quote from any local dealers, so those advertised prices could be unrealistic.

I went in person last month to two dealerships in my area, and they both had over 5k markups.
Lame. It’s at least better than a year ago when everything was marked up >$10k.