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As a 14-year long user, the new Fisher Price UI makes me sad :( What have they done to you, Reddit?

https://lemmy.world/post/2991397

As a 14-year long user, the new Fisher Price UI makes me sad :( What have they done to you, Reddit? - Lemmy.world

Notice there is only 1 full headline (from /r/NoStupidQuestions) visible, it doesn’t even show the full post. There are 3 of those “trending” boxes but only 2 of those even fit their headlines because they are like 3 words long, they cut off anything longer including the description I originally became addicted to Reddit because of all the stream-lined content I could consume, seems they have decided content is not something they want to provide :/

Aug 10, 2023 at 7:30pmWeb
Show threadZ3k3Aug 10, 2023

Wow that’s pretty horrible.

It’s amazing what you miss due to 10 years of browsing with RIF and RES as mandatory installs

Show thread_haha_oh_wow_Aug 10, 2023
“miss”
Show threadthe_weezAug 10, 2023
Show threadFredrikAug 10, 2023

At first glance I thought it was youtube.

Is the old.reddit.com still usable or is that fucked up too?

Show threadsulungskwaAug 10, 2023
old.reddit.com is still kickin it. No talk I’ve heard of to get rid of it yet. The second it’s gone I’m gone.
Show threadhypelightflyAug 10, 2023

In case you didn’t know and for everyone else that prefers the old UI there is a clone for lemmy.

github.com/rystaf/mlmym

lemmy.world has it installed at old.lemmy.world.

GitHub - rystaf/mlmym: a familiar desktop experience for lemmy

a familiar desktop experience for lemmy. Contribute to rystaf/mlmym development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub
Show threadNougatAug 10, 2023
Wow that's pretty accurate.
Show threaddejfAug 10, 2023
Wow, I never knew that was a thing! Old Reddit style Lemmy needs to be brought up more.
Show threadnik0Aug 10, 2023
It was on the front page of lemmy.world for a bit.
Show threadUbermeistersAug 11, 2023
It doesn’t have some modern conveniences like the ability to block just FYI to those reading along at home. It’s pretty bit it’s not as functional as many others.
Show threadAltima NEOAug 11, 2023
Same for old.lemmy.zip /
lemmy.zip

Show threadVoxAdActaAug 10, 2023
Old Reddit is Reddit. If they get rid of it, I'm sure as fuck not sticking around for this new site. It looks like Bing and Youtube had a deformed little monster-child.
Show threaddootAug 10, 2023
yeah same here… I was like, youtube has text posts now?
Show threadaardAug 10, 2023
It seems they recently fucked up something with i.redd.it handling - opening image links from old reddit always redirects to old.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/media/nice_hat/ for a few days now.
nice hat ...

Posted in r/funny by u/knightsofrnew • 0 points and 2 comments

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Show threadempireOfLoveAug 10, 2023
No that’s intentional. They no longer allow direct i.redd.it image linking, it forces a redirect to a landing page that is either old.reddit if you’re logged in and force it, or new reddit with a “get the app, doofus” nag screen for anyone not logged in. They didn’t want anyone using Reddit as an image hosting service or - God forbid! - viewing Reddit content without delivering every ounce of their personal data and ad revenue to Spez.
Show threadBlazeAug 10, 2023
It’s ironic because i.reddit links work perfectly fine to repost content on Lemmy
Show threadempireOfLoveAug 11, 2023
Well it hasn’t worked for inline embeds for me for a hot minute. You can still browse to it of course, but now you have to open a new tab and deal with the “GET APP!!!” pop-ups every 3 seconds.
Show threadexohumanAug 10, 2023
On my machine it doesn’t even take up the whole window. The left column is pushed out to the right, giving less space for actual content. Do they have UX engineers? This is very bad, especially when you can go to the old site and get a ton more info on one page instantly.
Show threadFinnbotAug 10, 2023
At first when they changed the layout I thought it was to try and mimic a mobile phone kind of layout, portrait instead of landscape sort of, to make it identical on pc and phone. Not that it made sense then, But they’re pushing everyone to their shite app so it makes even less sense now.
Show threadjustawittyusernameAug 10, 2023
Is this perhaps to lower backend requests, while forcing users to scroll more? I hate the amount of scrolling needed on the phone sometimes. 🤔
Show threadFubar91Aug 10, 2023
Alright which reddit dev just found out about inspect elements? Dude straight up went to youtube, pressed F12 and started copy pasting lol.
Show threadBeardedsausag3Aug 10, 2023
I thought as soon as I opened it are they trying to look sexy to Google and how easy they can adapt or something
Show threadNumbersCanBeFunAug 10, 2023
That looks like a hot bag of ass. Glad I’m not there anymore.
Show threadexododoAug 10, 2023
Looks like one of those clickbait content websites that pop up on social media. I guess this is what you get when everything is aimed at ad revenue and short term profit. Next logical step, sell the thing to some corpo while is still relevant.
Show threadglimseAug 10, 2023
Digg redesign vibes
Show threadThirdWorldOrderAug 10, 2023
The day that digg launched that new design was the last day I ever logged into that site. Why do people fuck up things that work?
Show threadsharpiemarkerAug 10, 2023
Yep, same here.
Show threadThe D QuuuuuillAug 10, 2023

Things that work aren’t profitable (enough). A thing that works is good for expanding customer base. A thing that almost works is good for profit per customer base. The thing is… A thing that works and is sustainable to maintain provides the most long term profits. There’s no legal requirement a company grow in scope, but most investors (both in small and large companies) see that as the only way. Reddit has been operating on an unsustainable business model. Their core feature set is simple. Their userbase was loyal, and willing to pay for Reddit gold to directly keep the website running. The holes in their sustainability were a huge staff to develop features to grow their customer base despite no one wanting or asking for those features, a terrible ad model that left money on the table by not putting ads where they’d have the most effect (why did I always get Ford ads on r/FuckCars, never Taco Bell ads on r/ShittyFoodPorn, no small online stationary shops on r/FountainPens?) and not returning ads in API calls, and finally an API model that went from free to impossible to justify overnight. But no one on the board of directors is interested in a business that consistently makes money over the long term. They want to make as much money as possible all in one go.

Let me ask you this. Which is better? To run a small coffee roaster that employs 8 people and serves coffee through one physical shop and one online store front to a loyal fan base by serving a high quality product in small batches, or to be massive coffee company, shadowed in scale only by Starbucks and Peets, but going into bankruptcy because you can’t keep up with Starbucks and Peets? I’d take the consistent sustainable business every time, but too many people want to be the big winner with the bankrupt company, and the result is the small investors, the ones who bought into the big coffee company, or Reddit, end up holding the bag while the people who took their money deploy their golden parachutes

Show threadBlazeAug 10, 2023
Great insight
Show threadThirdWorldOrderAug 10, 2023

Your example of Reddit’s evolution underscores the challenges that companies face when striving to balance the demands of expansion, customer satisfaction, and financial stability. As companies grow, there’s often a temptation to introduce new features, expand into new markets, or chase the latest trends, even if these decisions may not align with the core needs and desires of their customer base. This can lead to inefficiencies, overspending, and sometimes even a dilution of the very qualities that made the company popular in the first place.

How profitable did Digg get? It’s definitely a tight rope and the fact that we’re discussing this on Lemmy is a testament to how a lot of the user base feels now.

Show threadnfhAug 10, 2023
Designers want to get promoted, or get good bonuses for having impact. Product Managers are similarly incentivized to make changes, to improve some metric that they believe helps their business. If these structures exist, and the people making changes don’t understand what the users want, or their incentives are misaligned… it’s inevitable
Show threadThirdWorldOrderAug 10, 2023
“Promoted to the level of incompetence”
Show threadSpamboxAug 11, 2023

This makes me think of Microsoft. I get the impression it’s a software and technology company run by suits who are completely detached from end users and every decision is made purely from pie charts, analytics with no nuances included and designers itching to be promoted whispering in their ear.

So many things that worked perfectly - things people have learned where they are and how to use them for decades get changed for apparently no other reason than just to change them and a constant push to redesign everything into a path towards needing to use one of their services that already has better existing external services people were quite happy using.

Like if your product is good and works don’t start a new product then start changing the original product solely to integrate the new product. That’s bad for the existing users and customers.

Show threadHughJanusAug 11, 2023

Why do people fuck up things that work?

Depends on what you mean by “work”. If by “work” you mean is enjoyable to use, I understand. If by “work” you mean sustains a business, then no.

Show threadThirdWorldOrderAug 11, 2023
It obviously is a sustainable business. What they want to do is fatten the cow before slaughter
Show threadHughJanusAug 11, 2023
It’s obviously not. Because they’ve been reporting losses since it’s inception.
Show threadThirdWorldOrderAug 11, 2023
The more I think about it. I think you’re right. No more 0% loans so cheap debt is hard and interest starts accruing.
Show threadSchaedelbachAug 11, 2023

Yeah, but only because Reddit wants to become more than they are! All the coins, nfts (yes, they already sell them), useless functions and redesigns they implemented over the years, while simultaneously giving a shit about what made Reddit useful and interesting. They had a chance to be better than the rest and give us (and by that I mean user who used Reddit often) a way to pay for what we liked but more and more they pushed people like me away with all the convoluted and microtransactiony way to spend money.

Eh, whatever. I like it here better now!

Show threadHughJanusAug 11, 2023

They had a chance to be better than the rest and give us…a way to pay for what we liked

You wouldn’t have paid. No one would have paid. It’s as simple as that. People are happy to pay with their data and their attention, but not with their money, which is why they forced everyone onto their first-party app where they can mine your data and push notifications to keep you engaged, all while ensuring you’re forced to look at their ads.

Not to mention charging AI companies money to mine the information you’ve contributed to their platform that they were previously bypassing via the API.

Show threadSchaedelbachAug 11, 2023

You wouldn’t have paid

Eh, I don’t pay for Tv or have a lot of subscriptions but I actually pay for YouTube premium because there are channels I follow for more than ten years at this point. And because I know that some of this money goes to the creators (not all, I know) I feel like it’s money well spent for content I actually enjoy. So, with all that said: if Reddit would have given me an option to pay a reasonable amount to browse it on an app of my choice I am pretty sure I would have done that, because some of content and communities were also a part of my life for way longer than ten years.

I can kinda see where you are coming from, though. Not enough people would have paid the way I would have done. People like free stuff. I do too.

Show threadtwistedtxbAug 10, 2023
That was my first thought as well
Show threadAlexisFRAug 10, 2023

Once you are logged in the UI changes a lot for something way more usable.

Also old reddit is still around.

Show threadpewterAug 10, 2023
I’m not big on making predictions, but I don’t see them keeping old.reddit long term.
Show threadAdeptfuckupAug 10, 2023
JFC that’s hilariously hideous. Well done spez you fucking wank stain
Show threadphi1997Aug 10, 2023
If it was Fischer-Price, it would be colorful. This is just the sort of bland, generic website UI you see everywhere
Show threadMadison420Aug 10, 2023
Ie. An easily censorable ui, it’s for Chinese interests.
Show threadI'm Hiding 🇦🇺Aug 11, 2023
Remember, people complained Windows XP was a Fisher-Price OS. I don’t think this redesign will affect Reddit long-term, unfortunately.
Show threadphi1997Aug 11, 2023
Honestly, I would take the look of Windows XP over the look of Windows 10/11 or current MacOS. Of course, I'm on Linux, so I actually can do that
Show threadI'm Hiding 🇦🇺Aug 11, 2023

Of course, I’m on Linux, so I actually can do that

On an unrelated note, meet my daily driver!

(Complete with sounds, boot screen and login screen.)

Show threadphi1997Aug 11, 2023
Looks great, but do the windows jiggle when you drag them? Mine do
Show threadJilanicoAug 10, 2023
I legit thought this was a parody.
Show threadBlaubarschmannAug 10, 2023
Okay, so does anyone wanna talk about the math thingy in the post?
Show threadzkfcfbzrAug 10, 2023
They jump from 0.99999… = 1 to 0.99999… = 1 - 1 in the step where they introduce the limit, because the value of the limit they wrote is 1, not the 0 they probably thought it was. So the whole thing is a crapshoot from the start - functionally no different from setting up 1 = 1 - 1, simplifying to 1 = 0, and claiming you broke math
Show threadcollegefurtraderAug 10, 2023
Not really
Show threadnieceandtowsAug 10, 2023
According to math 0.999=1??? Who is this guy’s math dealer?
Show threadzkfcfbzrAug 10, 2023

That part’s real - not for 0.999 but for 0.999… (repeating). The classic proof goes:

Let x = 0.999999…

Then multiply both sides by 10. You now have:

10x = 9.999999…

Now subtract the first equation from the second equation. You get:

10x - x = 9.999999… - 0.999999…

9x = 9

Then divide by 9 to complete the proof:

x = 1

Show threadnieceandtowsAug 10, 2023
That’s a neat little proof.
Show threadJilanicoAug 10, 2023
No, not TIL, you’re supposed to say QED 😋 just kidding
Show threadDouble_AAug 10, 2023
You can’t find another number that fits between those 2 numbers… therefore they are the same.
Show threadNameOfWhimsyAug 10, 2023
If it started: 0.999… = 1 - lim(1/n) then maybe we can talk, but I have no idea where 0.999… = 1 - lim(1 - 1/n) comes from, that’s just incorrect