Twitter held in contempt, fined $350K over Trump data delay

https://lemm.ee/post/3699613

Twitter held in contempt, fined $350K over Trump data delay - lemm.ee

Sanctions were applied after the social media platform delayed compliance with a federal search warrant that required Twitter to hand over Donald Trump’s Twitter data without telling the former president about the warrant for 180 days.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

At first, Twitter resisted producing Trump’s data and argued that the government’s nondisclosure order violated the First Amendment and the Stored Communications Act.

However, US circuit judge Florence Pan wrote that the court was largely unpersuaded by Twitter’s arguments, mostly because the government’s interest in Trump’s data as part of its ongoing January 6 investigation was “unquestionably compelling.”

The government then took the extra step to apply for a nondisclosure order, which was granted because “the district court found that there were ‘reasonable grounds to believe’ that disclosing the warrant to former President Trump ‘would seriously jeopardize the ongoing investigation’ by giving him ‘an opportunity to destroy evidence, change patterns of behavior, [or] notify confederates.’”

The court checked with Twitter and confirmed that it was capable of meeting a rapid deadline and turning over the data by 5:00 pm that evening.

The court rejected Twitter’s “good faith” arguments, mainly because the company blew past the original deadline and repeatedly failed to raise concerns at earlier opportunities.

While Twitter appealed the decision, the company “paid the $350,000 sanction into an escrow account maintained by the district court clerk’s office.”

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Hmmmm, yes, we got rid of Nixon by complying with the first amendment act. At this point Elon is just a closeted far righter whos just scared to make it public.
Ummm… Has he not been making it public? He hasn’t seemed too subtle to me
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
350k is a slap. Criminal charges should be made agaist leaders who ordered the delays.
Can we send Twitter to prison?
Corporations are people my friend
that is what they say
Only for free speech purposes but not for criminal or tax.
I’ll believe that when a corporation gets executed.
I’m all for corporate death penalty.
Seems fair. If corporations are legally people, they ought to be able to be incarcerated like people or executed like people.

I fully agree with this, I’m just not sure what form this would take.

For execution, a dissolution of all properties, patents, inventory, and all assets seized and sold, followed by barring at least the C-suite from working in the same field ever again?

Thats a good start.

In my mind, incarceration would be a freeze on all their assets and business operations for a fixed period of time. Execution would mean full liquidation as though they were bankrupt, all their IPs become public domain, like you mention.

I imagine a C-suite that caused either of these outcomes wouldn't be popular with the investment class since it would cost them meaningful amounts of money. A ban might not even be nessicary.

“Who is this Twitter you speak of? My name is X. I don’t know any Twitter.“ - Musk with a fake moustache and glasses.
Yeah, it will go back to Twitter again eventually
Probably not, but maybe we could shut them off from the internet.
Ha, corporations are legally people but can’t be punished as people. I can’t see any way that could be abused.
Sure would be nice if some rich criminals went to jail instead of a life without repercussions of any kind

Bro, Elon gutted Twitter. I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t have the right people to get this information. I wonder if it sat in a mailbox for a day before they even had someone look at it.

Twitter isn’t a well run company anymore. This could be pure incompetence.

Too bad for them.

It was doubling every day. They were scared of day 15 where it would’ve been 780mil for the day and over 1.562billion total.

Every day doubling is a really good consequence, the fact that it only took twitter 3 days to comply once the penalty started actually hitting should confirm that

It took 6 months, and they got fined because they broke the law. If the company knewkon day one it would face criminal charges for non compliance after a period for appeal we would have seen results months ago.
Elon is bleeding millions a day at this point - he won’t even know that this 350k ever existed or what it was for.
100% this. This fine should be increased hundred fold at the very least. In the real world someone would be held in contempt of court and jailed. Laws for the common man and piddly fines for the wealthy parasites of the world.
Ugh please leave the pointless predictable pithy platitudes at Reddit
I feel like it should be noted that Twitter didn’t have any objections at all to handing over all of Trump’s data. Thier only issue was with not telling him about it.
If you read the article that was one of several things they threw out there to excuse their consistently delaying/not complying. The courts told them repeatedly that their opinions on the matter were wrong and they kept delaying over and over again.

To avoid a fine, all they had to do was tell the court they needed more time before the deadline*

*Because Space Karen fired all the people who knew how to look this up

Thier only issue was with not telling him about it.

That was a legal tactic. It doesn’t mean that was their actual concern. It means it was the best counterargument they could come up with.

…per day, or is this another “shucks Mr. Billionaire, I guess I gotta fine you something” punishment?

The judge laid out a formula for "sanctions that would accrue at a geometric rate: $50,000 per day, to double every day that Twitter did not comply." At that time, Twitter did not object to the sanctions formula

It was $50K per day. Then they complied, but still owed $350K. Then Twitter appealed the fine, and have now spent more money fighting the fine, than just paying it, and still have to pay it because they lost on appeal.
Lawyers got paid, so that’s cool for them I suppose.
No, it was $50k doubling every day. So day 2 it was $100k and day 3 it was $200k bringing it up to $350k. In a month, it would have been trillions.
…bruh, what the fuck? Fine them more than just a bullshit 350k!
The fine was $50K per day, and by the time they complied it had gotten to $350K. They then went to court to fight the fine, and have not definitively lost.
Just for clarification purposes, its 50k per day, doubling every day of noncompliance. So day 1 is 50k, day 2 is an additional 100k, and day 3 is an additional 200k. 3 days = 350k. I agree that it’s not enough, but if they dug their heels in, it would grow really high, really fast, so it was a pretty effective fine.

In particular, by day 5 it’s over a million dollars per day, and by day 15 it’s over a billion dollars per day.

If they sat on it for a month, it’d be a ~50 trillion fine that day.

There’s a reason it only took them 3 days to comply.

It wasn’t meant to punish. It was meant to compel, and it worked.
Elon is a Trump level business leader 🙄
All that money he saved by laying off staff now wasted on fines.
Elon Musk isn't paying his ex employees severance, his rent on multiple continents, and he's not going to be paying this fine, or any others that they levy, until they find him personally responsible, which will take years, and so the corporate stonewalling of government continues unabated with only the future of the republic at risk
They already paid the fine. It’s held in an escrow account while they appeal it.
Read the bot at least. Twitter paid the fine into an escrow account
Comply, Elmo, means comply. Like, right now. There isn’t a separate meaning for the very rich.
Justice system finally getting around to expressing what we're all feeling for TwitX.
I prefer Xitter, pronounced like "ZITTER".

The government immediately tried to serve Twitter with the search warrant—which required Trump's data to be shared within 10 days—but the website where Twitter gathers legal requests was "inoperative."

Did they auto-reply to the request with a poop emoji?

The purpose of a fine is to get compliance, not to punish. The fine was $50,000, doubling every day. So $350,00 dollars means Musk caved after 3 days. Pretty effective tactic by the court.
The fine would’ve hit $40 billion within a few weeks.
I think that would make his investment underwater
$350K might make it underwater?