StrikerAug 9, 2023

6 year old who shot teacher bragged about it

https://lemmy.world/post/2925739

6 year old who shot teacher bragged about it - Lemmy.world

The six-year-old student who shot his teacher in the US earlier this year, boasted about the incident saying “I shot [her] dead”, unsealed court documents show. While being restrained after the shooting at a Virginia school, the boy is said to have admitted “I did it”, adding “I got my mom’s gun last night”. His teacher, Abigail “Abby” Zwerner - who survived - filed a $40m (£31.4m) lawsuit earlier this year. The boy has not been charged. The boy’s mother, however, Deja Taylor, has been charged with felony child neglect and misdemeanour recklessly leaving a loaded firearm as to endanger a child. In Ms Zwerner’s lawsuit, filed in April, she accuses school officials of gross negligence for ignoring warning signs and argues the defendants knew the child "had a history of random violence The documents also mention another incident with the same student while he was in kindergarten. A retired teacher told police he started “choking her to the point she could not breathe”.

Show threadkn0wmad1cAug 9, 2023
This boy choked someone and shot someone else before turning 7. Maybe a psychiatric hospital should be his home.
Show threadAsafumAug 9, 2023

Fucking seriously… This kid has future murderer written all over him… I get that your brain isn’t fully developed yet, but I don’t think kids like him go from “literally a psychopath” to “normal adult”

A normal kid might do something crazy in a fit of rage or emotion, but then regret what they did when they see the fallout from it. This little psycho boasted about it…

Show threadhowlongisleft

but I don’t think kids like him go from “literally a psychopath” to “normal adult”

Not with that attitude they don’t. Do you really think a 6 year old is beyond help?
They need to be removed from the parents, given proper psychiatric help and support, and placed with a loving family that can help them manage whatever issues they have.
I have a feeling that won’t happen though and part of the reason for this is because people believe that small children cannot be helped.

Aug 9, 2023 at 6:41pmWeb
Show threadAsafumAug 9, 2023
I absolutely agree, I didn’t really say he can’t be helped, I was responding to a comment about him belonging in a home where they would help him. It was more about the fact that he will absolutely get worse if left to his parents.
Show threadAlien Nathan EdwardAug 9, 2023

Do you really think a 6 year old is beyond help?

The real question here is “are you willing to bet someone’s life on it?”

Show threadhowlongisleftAug 9, 2023
You’re betting someone’s life on it no matter what.
I’m not willing to give up on someone, especially a child, just because of what might happen.
Show threadtigerhawkvokAug 10, 2023
Definitely betting one life vs. maybe betting several. It’s a version of the trolley problem. There isn’t a right answer, unfortunately - though I personally would move the kid to professional full time psychiatric care in a “hope for the best, plan for the worst” sort of thing. Especially since I don’t think kids are inherently more valuable than adults.
Show threadhglmanAug 9, 2023
I mean, we have 12 years to find out? The kid needs help and care.
Show threadpewterAug 9, 2023

He’s in a new school and being raised by his grandparents.

For all intents and purposes, I believe the system believed that Mary Bell could have been helped and her case seemed incredibly sinister.

At the age of ten, she killed two toddlers with her bare hands, but one big difference is she actually served time in prison.

Mary Bell - Wikipedia

Show threadcrimroyAug 9, 2023
Damn, that was a trip
Show threadMrSpArkleAug 9, 2023

There are 6 year olds that are psychopaths and this is likely one of them.

The worst part is treatment is not a guarantee they can be integrated into society.

It’s tragic for everyone involved but it is true, some people are just missing certain wiring, and being placed in a “loving home” can just mean more bodies and a confused 6 year old not understanding why it’s bad that they killed their parents because they got sent to timeout.

Show threadElderosAug 10, 2023
Absolutely. I don’t feel like commenting this whole comment section because this is a hard subject, but “psychopathy” is not a learned trait, and childs can absolutely do some very dark things. I think most people just can’t believe that a human, let alone such a young one, could be so fucking detached and “appear” evil, but yeah, there are humans out there that are like lizards, they just don’t adverse it.
Show threadGood_ChemistryAug 10, 2023

Sadly this is true.

My mother is a psychologist who worked with kids with reactive attachment disorders who behaved like this child. There’s no known effective treatment for severe cases. Psychotherapy and behavioral therapies are incredibly harmful, since they only teach the kids how to pretend to feel what they’re supposed to. It turns violent kids into manipulative violent kids.

Show threadBluescluestoothpasteAug 10, 2023

this is likely one of them.

This is wrong, most likely they were a normal baby who got fucked up by his fucked up parents. Is it possible they were a born psychopath? Of course it’s possible, but statistically speaking they were born fine. All we know is a kid with exceptionally shitty parents did something exceptionally shitty. No reason to speculate they were born evil or whatever.

Show threadMrSpArkleAug 11, 2023
Are kids autistic because of shitty parents? This isn’t about the kid being evil, this is about the high chance, given the kids history, that the child does not have a typical neurological makeup.
Show threadBluescluestoothpasteAug 13, 2023
This has nothing to do with autism.
Show threadnew_acct_who_disAug 9, 2023

I don’t think anyone thinks a 6 yo can’t be helped. But where’s the funding for this?

We gut anything related to education or healthcare, force people to be parents, and even childless people are struggling to care for themselves.

Free options for care are probably going to be Christian focused, further screwing the kid up.

What is honestly the solution here?

Show threadNastybutlerAug 9, 2023

and placed with a loving family that can help them manage whatever issues they have.

I’ve seen that movie several times. Doesn’t end well for the parents

Show threadMonkRomeAug 10, 2023
Real life isn’t a movie…
Show threadPunnyNameAug 10, 2023
en.wikipedia.org/…/Antisocial_personality_disorde…
Antisocial personality disorder - Wikipedia

Show threadBrianTheeBiscuiteerAug 10, 2023
You must be rolling in the dough with your uncanny ability to diagnose mental health issues through a news article.
Show threadPunnyNameAug 10, 2023

Fun fact: there’s more than 1 article for this story.

Anyone who’s been paying attention to this series of events will likely conclude similarly.