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6 year old who shot teacher bragged about it

https://lemmy.world/post/2925739

6 year old who shot teacher bragged about it - Lemmy.world

The six-year-old student who shot his teacher in the US earlier this year, boasted about the incident saying “I shot [her] dead”, unsealed court documents show. While being restrained after the shooting at a Virginia school, the boy is said to have admitted “I did it”, adding “I got my mom’s gun last night”. His teacher, Abigail “Abby” Zwerner - who survived - filed a $40m (£31.4m) lawsuit earlier this year. The boy has not been charged. The boy’s mother, however, Deja Taylor, has been charged with felony child neglect and misdemeanour recklessly leaving a loaded firearm as to endanger a child. In Ms Zwerner’s lawsuit, filed in April, she accuses school officials of gross negligence for ignoring warning signs and argues the defendants knew the child "had a history of random violence The documents also mention another incident with the same student while he was in kindergarten. A retired teacher told police he started “choking her to the point she could not breathe”.

Aug 9, 2023 at 4:20pmWeb
Show threadgabe [he/him]Aug 9, 2023
What in the hell?
Show threadLlewellynAug 9, 2023
Murica
Show threadGiddyGapAug 9, 2023
FrEeDoM
Show threadGreenMarioAug 9, 2023
Next Kyle Rittinghouse just watch.
Show threadsugarfreeAug 9, 2023
You’re suggesting the six year old child is going to lawfully defend himself against 3 adult males, including a pedophile? I’m not understanding your comparison.
Show threadSerinusAug 9, 2023
As far as I know, he’s just a murderer, not a pedophile.
Show threadbe_excellent_to_each_otherAug 9, 2023

Let's not pretend that the technical legality of Rittenhouse's actions make him any less a piece of shit. And he certainly wasn't trying to rid the world of a pedo, as he had no way of knowing that. So acting like it somehow makes things better is quite disingenuous.

He went looking to use his rifle, and got himself in deep enough to create a scenario where he could get away with doing so. Nothing more admirable than that.

Show threadgivesomefucksAug 9, 2023

You forgot to mention the part where he obtained the rifle through an admitted straw purchase and still shouldn’t have been in possession of it or out past curfew.

He was breaking multiple gun laws before anyone tried to disarm him.

Show threadbe_excellent_to_each_otherAug 9, 2023
No argument here, I just know folks who jump up to defend Rittenhouse don't even slightly care about those details.
Show threadPsychedSyAug 9, 2023
Remember, if you jaywalk it voids your right to self defense.
Show threadPsychedSyAug 9, 2023
He ran away from the assailants each time and didn’t shoot the one guy until he pointed the pistol at him again. His actions show you’re completely full of shit. Those guys would be fine if they didn’t choose to attack an armed kid.
Show threadSterlingVaporAug 10, 2023

It boggles my mind how you can get away with a self-defense defense even when you entirely created the situation

Zimmerman is a great example to me… He brought the gun, he stalked an unarmed kid minding his own business, and he confronted him up close and personal. If Treyvon Martin had gotten the gun and shot Zimmerman instead, he’d have a way stronger self-defense case (in principle at least)

Like I could understand avoiding a murder charge, but shouldn’t it be manslaughter at least? At best according to the one side of the story we have, Zimmerman was negligent to the point someone died. If he didn’t bring the gun, it’s doubtful anyone would have died. If he left it to the police, no one would have died. If he kept his distance or tailed him in a car, no one would even have been at risk.

Our laws are seriously wonky in this country…

Show threadHypeAug 9, 2023

I think he is trying to conflate the 6 year old bragging about shooting people with Kyle Rittenhouse “bragging” about overcoming an attempted character assassination, criminal charges, and successfully defending himself from those who intended to cause death or great bodily harm.

I belive he thinks Kyle Rittenhouse “bragging” about shooting (lawful self-defense) people is the same as the 6 year old bragging about shooting (attempted murder) his teacher.

Show threaddtcAug 9, 2023

I saw Rittenhouse crying when he was in court like a little bitch.

Then 3 weeks later saw him in an advertisement for some shitty video game where he cracked tongue in cheek jokes about the whole shooting thing.

He lacks what most Republicans lack; a backbone, empathy,moral righteousness, AND the self awareness about any of those shortcomings.

Show threadgivesomefucksAug 9, 2023

Unfortunately the courts wouldn’t let them show jurors the video like a week or two before the shooting where he physically attacked a preteen girl, and when a couple Black teens yelled at him to stop he curled I to the fetal position and bawled his eyes out that he was being attacked…

They didn’t even touch him. Just psychopath crocodile tears.

Or the video he filmed between that and the shooting where he sat outside a CVS and fantasized about if they were looting so he could kill them.

He went out there with a gun so he could feel like a big strong man and kill someone.

Those videos would have helped establish his frame of mind when the shootings took place.

Show threadFlying SquidAug 9, 2023
Do explain how Rittenhouse knew he was shooting a pedophile. Did he see the man’s criminal record before opening fire?
Show threadblazeraAug 9, 2023
Dont worry there will be plenty of school shooting stories in the future for you to come in and praise guns.
Show threadtox_solidAug 9, 2023
Say what you will about his political leanings, but Kyle Rittenhouse was in the right. And he erased a known pedophile from existence, which is a net good any way you slice it.
Show threadgivesomefucksAug 9, 2023

but Kyle Rittenhouse was in the right

He wasn’t legally allowed to be in possession of the gun…

Let alone running around a riot with it after curfew

Show threadThe dogspaw Aug 9, 2023
How weak are you to be choked nearly to death by a 4 year old this child was definitely a serial killer in a past life
Show threadHypeAug 9, 2023
It’s probably a case of her thinking she can not defend herself out of fear of backlash. Teachers have been charged with assault when defending themselves from students.
Show threadsadrealityAug 9, 2023
I don't promote violence but someone is attacking you, you have defend yourself. If that leads to charges so be it.
Show threadalmar_quigleyAug 9, 2023
lol, ok. Must be nice living in fantasy land where all consequences can be dealt with later.
Show threadTurkey_Titty_cityAug 9, 2023
losing your career and being sued into oblivion by the kids parents sounds like a real good choice!
Show threadsadrealityAug 9, 2023
Well then get chocked by a child like a fucking amature.
Show threadThe dogspaw Aug 10, 2023
Yeah I don’t get this she couldn’t do anything because she would get sued is such a reddit argument its a small child you don’t have to punch the kid just push them away and hold your arms out don’t sit there like a dumb ass and let a 4 year old strangle you to death
Show threadcandybrieAug 10, 2023
She’s alive, so she didn’t let him strangle her to death. But you bet your ass, any teachers who want to stay in the profession are waiting until there’s no other choice before putting their hands on a kid, even if it’s just to push them away.
Show threadThe dogspaw Aug 10, 2023
Kids still get spankings in a lot of the country no teacher would get in trouble for putting there hands on a kid choking them
Show threadeckteAug 9, 2023
‘In kindergarten choking her till she could not breath’ BITCH that’s a 5 year old fuck him up.
Show threadAltoAug 9, 2023
I think you woefully underestimate how much it's drilled into teachers' heads not to use any sort of physical force at all
Show threadeckteAug 9, 2023
Idgaf. If a five year old is choking me till the point I can’t breath there will be (appropriate) consequences. He spends 8 hours a day at that school you bet your ass he will behave in my class.
Show threadAltoAug 9, 2023
You can just say you have absolutely zero experience in the classroom, it's OK.
Show threadsadrealityAug 9, 2023
When I was in classroom nobody was ever choking the teacher and if they tried, they would get dropped kicked like a soccer ball.
Show threadAltoAug 9, 2023
Tell that to the teacher from the middle school I went to that got fired for pushing a kid that tried to stab him with a pencil
Show threadsadrealityAug 9, 2023

Sounds like a shiti employer, really. Either get a new one or switch career. At this point I don't get why one would want to be a teacher in the US. Bad pay, zero respect from parents or admins, plus homework as an adult

Jfc, these people need to be on anti work and work reform to start regaining dignity.

If society cannot respect the teacher, fuck such shiti society IMHO.

Show threadsomeguynamedmarkAug 9, 2023
Almost like it’s a sad reality out there.
Show threadsadrealityAug 9, 2023
Indeed, it is.
Show threadeckteAug 9, 2023
Why the downvotes? He’s right. Some brainwashed dumbfucks in this thread. Teach your kids manners otherwise other people are very fast fed up with the behavior of your kid.
Show threadeckteAug 9, 2023
Dropkick that little motherfucker. Ciaooo see you again with your parents after school and if your kid doesn’t behave next time he needs to find another school.
Show threadeckteAug 9, 2023
Hello USA. I didn’t know you were awake.
Show threaddtcAug 9, 2023
We know ydgaf, that’s why you keep leaving these braindead comments. The world in your head has little correlation with the one we find ourselves living in.
Show threadBURNAug 9, 2023
Loses her job and also can’t get a job anywhere else. It’d essentially be the end of her career
Show threadMurvelAug 10, 2023
Yeah, rather get choked to death by a baby boy than that!
Show threadSheeEttinAug 9, 2023
True, but I think that’s still better than being dead.
Show threadbe_excellent_to_each_otherAug 9, 2023
Great "article" BBC. Let's vilify the 6 year old who is too young to be any more fucked up than his home environment has directly caused him to be or to otherwise grasp the finality of these actions, with only a brief mention of the mother, and no discussion at all about the easy access to guns which lies at the root of every such story.
Show threadStrikerAug 9, 2023
This article clearly paints a picture of how the adults in this child’s life clearly ignored their obvious violent tendencies.
Show threadbe_excellent_to_each_otherAug 9, 2023
5/6 year olds don't behave like that unless their parents have created that behavior through neglect or abuse. Given the other things we know about the mother from quality reporting, that tracks.
Show threadbe_excellent_to_each_otherAug 9, 2023
5/6 year olds don't behave like that unless their parents have created that behavior through neglect or abuse.
Show threadgirlfreddyAug 9, 2023

@be_excellent_to_each_other @STRIKINGdebate2

What if the parents don't have the $1000's to spend on mental healthcare for the child?

'Murica seems to forget that there are hundreds of thousands of people who can't afford insurance while working $7 per hour jobs.

Show threadMonsiuerPatEBrownAug 9, 2023

This is why some US Americans want armed teachers ?

To shoot back at 6 year olds ?

Show threadTehgingeyAug 9, 2023
Bringing whole new level to “Kindergarten Cop” I don’t think Arny could have predicted this
Show threadmeseek #2982Aug 9, 2023
Maybe because of the tumor?
Show threadNo1Aug 9, 2023
Eets naht ah tumah!
Show threadnew_acct_who_disAug 9, 2023
It’s not a tumor
Show threadPurpleTentacleAug 9, 2023

Not just teachers: this obviously wouldn’t have happened, if all the other students had been armed, too.

The only thing that can stop a bad 6-year-old with a gun is a good 6-year-old with a gun.

Show threadHonkyTonkWomanAug 9, 2023

No, no, no, you’ve gotten it all wrong. We need armed teachers to shoot dangerous books.

There’s no way we can ban all of the dangerous books, so we need teachers to shoot them out of the hands of our precious youth.

Show threadPoliticalAgitatorAug 9, 2023

They say it’s so teachers can protect themselves and their students (from the consequences of failed gun laws) but really, it’s just because they have to say something – and it can’t be the truth.

At a civilian level, most of them simply don’t care. They’re confident it will never be their kids and they consider a stranger’s children less important than their own easy access to firearms.

But they can’t say that, so they make flowery comments about freedom, defending their family and how they’re the ones keeping America out of the hands of tyrants, even though they staunchly support tyrants and wouldn’t even wear a mask to protect other people, let alone fight and die for them.

On the corporate and political level, there’s good money and easy votes in guns. It’s no different to tobacco, asbestos and everything else they fought to profit from even as it killed people.

But they can’t say that either. So instead, they coordinate what today’s scapegoat is going to be. Computer games? Too many doors? Timid police? Whatever keeps the money flowing.

The important part for all of them is demanding other solutions are tried before gun control. They know they won’t work, but it will buy them more time and the more time they waste, the better.

That’s why their current solution is “free, universal healthcare for everybody in America, including 5 year olds and people who don’t want treatment, done to a standard far beyond even the most cutting edge of medicine, completely and permanently curing people in less time than it takes to buy a gun”.

Which they then block anyway, because it’s important their conditions for supporting gun control are never met.

Show threadMethylchloroisothiazolinoneAug 9, 2023
This is really solid analysis
Show threadgirlfreddyAug 9, 2023

@LarryTheMatador @PoliticalAgitator

Yup. I followed them because of this.

Show threadaestheleteAug 9, 2023

They’re confident it will never be their kids and they consider a stranger’s children less important than their own easy access to firearms.

This, but, in addition, they’re mostly concerned with firearms being easy to buy so that sales of them can continue to go through the roof, and their NRA checks will continue to arrive on schedule and in the agreed upon amount.