Rubbish news, everyone!

After 2 years on sale with no objections, Oviposition has been removed from Amazon. They say is violates their ToS, but I can't see any way that's true.

They allow erotica and it's all my own work.

I've responded to ask what they think it violated, but don't know if that will make any difference.

I'm not sure there's much you folks can do to help me, but maybe consider buying one of my other books? #erotica #kdp #KindleDirectPublishing #Oviposition #Tentacles

Oviposition is a short bit of niche tentacle erotica - a weird little story I used to test the waters of erotic self-publishing.

It's never made me much money, but it's been very popular. 76 people downloaded it for free last month when it was on offer, and it's been read hundreds of times on KU.

If you read and enjoyed Oviposition for free and would like to support me, maybe check out one of the other books in my pinned toots? Ruinous Attraction is a longer work in the same world.

I'll try to get Oviposition up on another platform. It had Amazon exclusivity so it could be on KU (how most people read it) but there's no point if Amazon have decided to be prudes.

To dicks saying I shouldn't be selling on Amazon in the first place: Oviposition is 8 pages long. It was originally shared for free on a site where it had 20,000 hits.

20,000 hits and I made no money from it.

People wanted to read it, likely again and again and again, but it was only 8 pages long. How much do you think people would pay for that on Smashwords? At Barnes and Noble?

With KDP I could give people the option of paying 77p/99c of which I see about 30p, or they can read on KU.

As many times as they like. I make pennies, but it was more than I was going to get anywhere else.

Compare: An Unexpected Attachment. This is available on Amazon, Smashwords, Barnes and Noble, and a bunch of other places. It's longer, has more developed characters, and I would argue is better written. In the 6 months from launch to June I sold one (1) copy via Smashwords. In the sales. I sold seven more copies via Smashwords in their June sale. I have never sold a full price copy anywhere>

>that wasn't Amazon, and this is a book with 5 star reviews.

There are GOOD REASONS to think Oviposition will do better on a site set up to let people read lots of short stories for a small monthly fee. KU pay is UNBELIEVABLY SHIT. For the thousands of KENP I have for Oviposition and the ~100 copies I've sold, I have made just under £10. I do not think I would have made that much if I had diversified and not had the benefits of giving Amazon exclusivity.>

> All I ever wanted for Oviposition was to see SOME kind of payment for what was obviously an EXTREMELY popular story among horny kinksters.

It was not the kind of story I could submit to a pro-paying magazine. It's very niche.

But I deserve to be paid for what some people CLEARLY want. And KU/KDP is still the best way to do that.

BTW, those 20,000 hits were from people finding it on their own and recommending it to others. I never advertised it at all when it was free.
@RubyJones You really want to make books available outside Amazon in general. If you buy into KDP exclusivity initially, there won't be other platforms available when you need them.

@DamonWakes That's really not your decision to make for me, and patronising me helps no one.

I DO make some of my works available off Amazon, but OVERWHELMINGLY customers go to Amazon even where they have an option. I have ONLY EVER sold books elsewhere when they are on sale. I cannot afford to ignore what customers want.

The Amazon monopoly is NOT on indie authors to fix, and talking down to an indie author suffering at Amazon's hands helps no one but Amazon. Don't be a dick.

@RubyJones I'm sorry. I didn't intend to be patronising. As an indie author myself I think it's important to take whatever steps are available to reduce Amazon's monopoly, but you're right: it's not my decision to make for anyone else.
@RubyJones That's some *premium grade* bullshit
@stavvers Thanks - especially after their policy changes earlier this year, they were making way more money off it than I ever did.

@RubyJones Oh no, that fucking sucks! 😔
I had one of my books taken down overnight too. I wouldn't put much hope into getting a reply. I've tried so many times in the past finding out why a book was blocked and I never got a human to respond even a single time.

If you are looking for a new home for the story: Kobo has a subscription service similar to KU. Not sure about how shit the pay is. Smashwords also has a "pay what you want" option but only one single person ever paid for my shortie 😅

@AimeeMaroux Thanks, I'll check out the Kobo.

It feels like they're doing a lot more random take downs lately - I've seen a lot of people complaining.

@RubyJones Amazon wants to cash in on the erotic content but without acknowledging they sell erotica, much less value the writers.
These smack-downs usually come after someone found erotica on Amazon and publicly complained about it.

@AimeeMaroux They have bloody book categories for erotica - this is what makes me so mad. It was in the erotica category. It had a warning for non-con. I know for a fact they sell countless non-erotic books with non-con.

But they just replied to confirm that my content was in violation without saying why. I'm livid!

@RubyJones Yeah, I know. The one of mine they removed was non-con too.
I'm not sure if they explicitly disallow it in their ToS but what is the most likely is that either someone flagged the book or they added something to the algorithm that determines if the book is on the index.
Smashwords does allow non-con, so it might be worth considering. It's not Amazon in terms of size but people do go there particularly to buy erotica.
@AimeeMaroux I've literally only had people buy from Smashwords if it's on sale. People *will* go there, but they seem to need incentive. I will try uploading it there, because why not, but I'm not well enough to do it right now.
@RubyJones One of the erotica writers I met on Twitter, Alana Church, sells exclusively on Smashwords and makes good money. But I think it's a different game than Amazon. Especially if you don't want to do a lot of marketing, Amazon and KU is nice because it gives a little even if you don't advertise.
I personally just got tired of Amazon's bullshit and pulled my books from KU but it's not an easy decision to make if KU makes up a significant part of a writer's income.

@AimeeMaroux I just find most people I sell to strongly prefer Amazon, even when I offer options. Whereas I've only had one person say they would only buy if it wasn't on Amazon.

Maybe it's easier to just pull out of Amazon if you're more established, but for me it's absolutely clear that I would lose the vast majority of my sales.

@RubyJones Are we talking KU or Amazon in general? Because of course my books are still on Amazon (minus the one they blocked), excluding the platform entirely would be too harsh on me too!
But without KU I can publish the books on other platforms and I think it makes up for the KU money, though it did take a while.
@AimeeMaroux @RubyJones Wait, only one? I think that was probably me, which is just... that's nuts, I'm sorry 
@LaurenLeFey @RubyJones That was you? Thank you so much! 🥺
It really was only once or twice someone opted to pay for the shortie but it is also available for free on my website, so it's not like I expect people to pay for something they can have for free. More like a tip jar. A tip jar with two coins in it 😂 💰

@AimeeMaroux @LaurenLeFey I always appreciate people who use tip jars.

I was thinking about getting one for my Medium account (seeing as the partner programme is pointless) but it's hard to do without revealing 'real me' contact details. Ko-fi doesn't work for that reason, as that connects to my PayPal. I have heard of https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ but their website doesn't say much about how it works.

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@RubyJones @LaurenLeFey I am paying one of my illustrators via buymeacoffee. I don't get shown any personal details but it only takes credit cards IIRC.
@AimeeMaroux @LaurenLeFey That's reassuring to know! I might explore that as a tip jar.
@RubyJones @AimeeMaroux @LaurenLeFey That's why I have a wishlist, not a tip jar: Everything on my list is digital, so no one gets my physical address (they do get a dedicated email address though), and no one gets my real name.

@AdaraAstin @AimeeMaroux @LaurenLeFey where have you set up the wishlist?

I can't, for example, use Amazon, as that's linked to my real name and accounts.

Also, I really want to actually make money ;D

@RubyJones @AimeeMaroux @LaurenLeFey I set up a different email address that has no connection to my real name or normal Amazon accounts and used that. I wanted it firewalled from my real name for all the same reasons when I set it up.

https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/Y2IWOAA0R36G?ref_=wl_share

Check out my list on Amazon

@AdaraAstin @RubyJones @AimeeMaroux @LaurenLeFey and you can put amazon credit/vouchers on your wishlist so then you could use them to buy groceries etc. Not ideal but just another potential revenue stream
@Mollysdailykiss @RubyJones @AimeeMaroux @LaurenLeFey Plus in the US, tip jar proceeds may be taxable but at this time, as far as I know, gift cards are not.
@AdaraAstin @Mollysdailykiss @AimeeMaroux @LaurenLeFey I don't mind being taxed on my income - I want income - although I am in the UK and taxed there.
@AdaraAstin @AimeeMaroux @LaurenLeFey Ah, OK. I don't think I want to do that. I have a separate email address for Ruby Jones, but I don't want two Amazon accounts.
@AimeeMaroux @RubyJones I know I got something from you that I chose to pay for, so I guess so?? 🤷‍♀️ 😂
Regardless you are so welcome and you deserve it and more
@LaurenLeFey @RubyJones Thank you, Lauren 🤗 🥰
I usually pay for "pay what you want" too, though sometimes I'm unsure what is a fair price before downloading the work.
@RubyJones I've just gone through the audiobook version of this experience, so you have my full and deep sympathy, Ruby.
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