J Λ M Ξ SZoom's terms of service now include training GenAI with no ability to opt out
Check sections:
- 10.2 Service Generated Data; Consent to Use
- 10.4 Customer License Grant
- 16.2 Ownership of Zoom Property
Edit: included other sections of ToS
Brian King@jmsdnns Not remotely a fan of Zoom, but FWIW, that section of the TOS is specifically about ancillary data that Zoom generates based on usage and not user generated data:
“…telemetry data, product usage data, diagnostic data, and similar content…”
Unless I’m misreading it, this part of the TOS seems to be more for training “hey, it looks like you call Suzan around this time every week” and not “we’re going to steal your conversations and use them for data generation” data.
Lyons@lyonsinbeta @bkbkbk edited to include the other sections of the ToS
@jmsdnns @lyonsinbeta Yeah, the 10.4 bit looks nasty. It’s all standard boilerplate “we have the right to use your stuff for providing the service” stuff right up until the AI mention.
Urban Hermit@lyonsinbeta @bkbkbk @jmsdnns
Totally. I mean Reddit is already looking to monetize all the conversations it is storing as AI training material, I think every company that claims to own our conversations is going to reassert their right to profit off all of our data.
Totally. I mean Reddit is already looking to monetize all the conversations it is storing as AI training material, I think every company that claims to own our conversations is going to reassert their right to profit off all of our data.
@bkbkbk you are correct. i will edit the toot to include a call to section 10.4
John Ulrik@bkbkbk @jmsdnns I’m not a lawyer, but I read sections 10.2 and 10.4 together to mean that Zoom (or anyone really, if they like) can use anything you send or receive (audio, video, chat messages, files etc.) as well as anything that Zoom might make of that (like auto-generated subtitles) in practically any way they like, including machine learning.
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