cosmicrookieEnvironmental protester halt the world championship in cycling... one of the best alternatives to fuel driven transportation....
sexy_peachSo what is your plan instead?
MichalInterrupting motorsports may give then more sympathy.
woelkchenInterrupting motorsports may give then more sympathy.
Like when they glued themselves on a race track of Formula E electric racing because promoting emission free propulsion is apparently bad as well.
Haha, haven’t heart about that. Sounds ridiculous!
Not only is it ridiculous to protest the promotion of emission-free propulsion, it’s also accepting that their own people could be killed and bystanders traumatized for life.
But hey, those three or so people got their 30 seconds in the spotlight: www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgekxYhO26s
Klimaaktivisten behindern Formel E Berlin Tempelhof
Cool. Now tell us all that Greta predicted the end of the world and yet we’re all still here.
I don’t care about that nuclear power apologist.
Emission free, eh? How was the electricity generated?
It really depends on the energy generation mix on the country were they’re racing.
Electricity generation is however emitting less and less (as renewables become an ever larger fraction of it) which makes electric cars directly have less emissions all the while requiring no vehicle changes whatsoever, something not all possible with non-electric means of motorised transportation since the “generate the energy” directly in the vehicle so you need to upgrade the vehicle to improve the energy generation.
So yeah, that stuff is promoting emission free propulsion (already so today in some countries, certainly tomorrow in all), something which cannot be said of the other options.
It’s pretty stupid to go after the “not yet perfectly ecological” alternative when there are a ton of “outright anti-Ecological and will never be any better” ones to go after.
Why… just why?
This is mildly infuriating but ruining the climate is very infuriating. So I understand the protesting and I hope we’re gonna see a good second half of the race.
supercheesecakeWhen you’ve done everything that’s reasonable, and no one in power listens, so have to become unreasonable. And people say, why can’t you just be reasonable?! 😕
When you’ve done everything that’s reasonable, and no one in power listens, so have to become unreasonable.
Get elected and become a person in power then.
Be abuse the corporations you are protesting are the ones who fund the campaigns necessary to get elected.
Make enemies with everyone and make sure nobody outside the fossil fuel industry will want to fund your campaign either.
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Those glue fumes are bad for your brain.
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That’s indeed a much better way to actually change anything than to glue yourself onto a bicycle track and make up stories about turning away trans viewers.
Yeah no shit sherlock, and it would be better still to not even get in power, but instead just wave your arms and magic away all the excess co2 in the atmosphere.
just wave your arms and magic away all the excess co2 in the atmosphere.
Carbon capture is an actual thing, not magic and Shell is working on that, including two projects in Scotland: www.shell.com/…/carbon-capture-and-storage.html
BTW: The world’s biggest CO2 emitter is China with a third of all emissions.
Okay, I refuse to believe anyone is actually this stupid, so I’m just going to disengage.
Where did you get that it is environmental protestors?
Cycling races are very polluting. Not because of the bikes but because of everything besides the bikes (cars, motocycles, cameras, plastic goodies, …)
Maybe bc cycling fans will listen
all this does is to make sure to alienate the cyclists who would actually listen.
Mother fucker we all about to die from climate change and you worried about how it might make people feel bad.
I find this so silly. I feel that all this does is make people mad instead of getting them aware and informed on what they’re protesting about.
So you’re advocating for people being so selfish that the death of a livable environment is secondary to being fully comfortable today?
Yes that is exactly what I’m saying. Not.
I want it to be brought to people’s attention, I want countries to take action. All I hear around me is that people who do this are seen as loonies, as idiots who don’t have anything better to do, which paints a bad picture for the cause they’re trying to bring attention to.
Oil companies love that you think any noticeable protest is crazy.
Stop alienating people. You’re most definitely not helping the cause either.
I also never said I think it is crazy. I find the way they’re going about it strange, sure, but if I have to choose between nothing happening or this then I’ll choose for this.
“I think this is so silly” isn’t alienating? Ok.
I indeed did not think that that is alienating. It might be because English is not my native tongue but thought the word silly didn’t have any negative connotations. If that is the case then my apologies for that. Do you have any suggestions which word I should’ve used? I could’ve gone for ‘strange’ or ‘weird’, but those are negative to me in this context.
I do wonder why you’re coming up against me with such a negative attitude. The way you’re writing your comments are full of blame already, even though you don’t know my stance. Just because I think the way protests like these go about it doesn’t mean I am the devil and I support oil companies and whatnot, that’s such a leap to make.
Especially your comment “Oil companies love that you think any noticeable protest is crazy.” is funny to me, because from my perspective YOUR comments are what oil companies love, you make me not want to associate with this subject at all.
Cycling is environmentally friendly, but let’s not equate world championship to cycling as transport. The event itself must have a lot carbon footprint. Still, weird choice of event to protest, but I can see them doing what they can to get the publicity they need.
The event itself must have a lot carbon footprint.
Same is true for almost every form of entertainment but it’s a drop in the bucket compared to the truly big polluters.
I think its because of this: sh.itjust.works/comment/1915960
I guess big oil has nothing against cycling, as long as its the sport and not the mode of transport…
What’s mildly infuriating is that you are complaining about these protesters without providing any details on the protest.
Fugtig FiskNo worries dude! I got you. Google to the rescue
nitter.net/Thisis_Rigged/…/1688142514421661696#m
“Rebecca, 28, “as a trans woman I’ve been told I’m not welcome on the cycling track by UCI, at the same time they allow a petrochemical company to field a team showing they have no real care for people. I take to the track to point out this hypocrisy and stand for a better future””
Shell produces, among other things, resins used so much in modern bicycles’ carbon fiber
Can't recycle them either. You could potentially downcycle carbon fibers but I'm pretty sure in most places they'll just end up in the incinerator, or somewhere in nature.
Can’t recycle gasoline either, so the bike still comes out on top…
Wow. You completely missed the point of my comment. Congrats for this achievement. I'm speaking out in favor of steel and aluminium frames and you come up with fucking gasoline. Wow. Just wow.
Ya well, it takes a bit more to get a car going than a steel frame.
No one talked about cars but you, you dingus.
DrunemetonJFC lady pick a point to be outraged about and stick to it!
She did. She’s just protesting alongside others who are protesting for different reasons.
How frustrating, it’s far easier to dismiss them when they’re a faceless homogeneous mass.
FalmarriI kind of agree with you. Those points are so completely unrelated, it just makes the cause look stupid. Even if you agree with both causes.
no bananaAnd this makes us talk about the fact that cycling is one of the most environmentally friendly alternatives to the car.
Yeah, there's a big difference between pro cycling and biking to get around. The pro peloton isn't remotely sustainable—lots of international travel, transfers of team cars, team buses, helicopters, signal relay planes, etc. I suppose no pro sport is green. But biking for transport is one of the most efficient and sustainable.
Of course. All in saying is that it makes us talk about how cycling is a good alternative to motor transport. Doing the pro peloton to work isn’t an option.
Yeah, there’s a big difference between pro cycling and biking to get around.
Of course, but there’s also a big difference between a cycling race and a car race.
Neither are vital transportation, but one is a helluva lot more polluting for entertainment than the other.
I suppose no pro sport is green.
SailGP claims to be trying, although I have… questions… about how they get both their boats and personnel from event location to event location, as well as the use of combustion-powered support boats during races. (Frankly, I won’t really believe they’re green until they’ve built a sailing cargo ship to schlep those racing catamarans around.)
Try cycling where I live and you’ll hate the idea of cycling in a week
CurlyMoustacheThey live on the international space station
Death roads most likely
I’ve commuted regularly by bicycle for almost 2 decades in 3 other countries, but were I am now - Portugal - I won’t because drivers are stupidly dangerous (some of the worst in Europe judging by accident statistics), though unlike almost all of my countrymen here I refuse to buy a car and walk, use public transportation or at worst rent one when needed.
The infrastructure isn’t even worse than in Britain (were I did regularly cycle to and from work): it’s just that when there are no segregated cycling lanes the quality of everybody else with you on the road makes a huge difference when you’re the narrow crosssection (so harder to spot for drivers who just quickly peek on the mirrors and easy to fit on their blindspot) squishy, i’ll protected and low-acceleration road user.
That’s not a problem with cycling. That is a problem with city planning.
Which isn’t a excuse not to improve it.