"History will judge them harshly."
Do you really think that matters to them? They'll be long gone when History--which can't judge anything, it can only be recorded and people learn/remember what took place--"judges" them.
And it'll be too late by then anyway. And they don't care. At all.
Can we maybe choose a different phrase? Like, say, "These vile fascists are total assholes who are destroying democracy and need to be stopped STAT"? How's that?
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2/ IOW, History isn't a person. It doesn't "judge." People do, based on what took place and was recorded.
I find phrases like this to be a lazy way of calling out the bad guys. Just call out the bad guys, FFS.
And btw, again, the bad guys don't care one bit how "History" will "judge" them, esp. because "History" can't judge anything.
Sorry, rambling. I'm in a mood.
3/ Your replies have been great. But I apparently wasn’t clear.
My gripes: The trite phrase “History will judge”: meaningless, lazy default (sort of like my other pet peeve, “Are you surprised?”). I was sharing my annoyance at attributing human qualities to a written record as if it were able to “judge.”
WE should judge NOW, then VOTE.
Other gripe: those written up by historians will be dead/buried and don’t care what will be documented.
I was NOT addressing fascism or how to deal with it.
4/ I was not addressing WHO will write history. I was ONLY addressing 1) my exasperation with the overused expression, the idiom “history will judge”, and 2) that those who want to kill democracy don’t care about being judged now, and certainly won’t care once they’re dead.
Those were my points.
Nothing broader than that. Really just a simple gut reaction to overused language.
Based on replies, I wasn’t clear enough. My bad.
@Dgun8 Some took issue, others misunderstood my point, I think, even though their points were good ones.
And so many thanks. I try to reply, I miss so many or I get too swamped sometimes, but I try.
Exactly. That is not to say issues/crimes shouldn't be recorded for posterity, but the issue should be adjudicated and the responsonsible perpetrators penalized immediately. Assigning recognition/punishment to history is how we got here to begin with.
@Atticus1956 Oh, I wasn't suggesting that we shouldn't document, which I thought was clear, I hope? I was saying that history IS documentation, not human with an ability to judge.
And yes to the rest.
Another point: history is written by the victors, so if Trump and his ilk carry the day, history will sing their praises — or else.
@Leisureguy Oh, no biggie, I was just letting you know.
I always appreciate your feedback.
@GottaLaff it's essentially kicking the can down the road.
"In 100 years time I'll be proven right and they'll be proven wrong"
Doesn't really help right now though does it genius?
@ridetheory History cannot judge. That's my point. That's why I wrote the thread. Please reread it.
But I agree, it also can't sentence.
It's a panacea. Truly lazy and equally dismissive of the present reality.
People make judgments based on the history they are taught.
If history is not taught truthfully, then the value and knowledge of history is almost lost.
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