FlagonOfMeOne-time payment for ad-free is live in Beta 25. It's $19.99 USD. Update your app if you don't see it
Thatās realllly steep for a single app.
As much as I browsed reddit throughout the day for the past 5 yearsā¦$20 seems like nothing. Hell I spend $10 a month of a few Patreons for ad free content.
Hey if itās not stopping you, more money to support the developer and signal more Lemmy content! Iām personally doing the $2 sub until Boost for Lemmy comes out and may switch. Dunno yet, may come back and buy Sync too.
Yes, but please consider donating to instance admins instead, who have monthly bills for hosting your content.
Why not both?
SpaceCadetI paid ā¬1.55 for Sync Pro back in 2012 lol
I paid ā¬2.69 in 2017 xD
ā¬1.55 in 2012 here
Granted, that was a steal compared to what I eventually got from it, but still ā¬20 for a Lemmy app feels incredibly steep. I was expecting something in the ā¬5 to ā¬10 range at most.
Nato BoramI also paid with my Google Opinion Rewards even though I didnāt use it, but this price is literally double what Iāve gained in a year. A bit greedy, innit?
Have you seen price growth in London (where Sync author lives) in the last couple of years?
And have you seen the prices of Jerboa, Connect, Liftoff and Thunder?
Howās that relevant?
$0.99 in 2013. Was definitely a steal for how much I used it
Iām doing the ultra at about $23 cdn per year. $2 a month for an app I use about 300 times a day for years seems like a good deal.
Iām not going to argue with what youāre happy to pay, Iām just curious why you are doing the math based on how much you use it instead of some other metric like the amount of labour it took to produce or maybe how much ad revenue you need to replace?
I see $23/year for a few years equaling the cost of outright owning a AAA video game (that will receive support and updates for years to follow too) that took millions of dollars and many thousands of man-hours to produce and it doesnāt add upā¦
akimThese triple a games are expected to be sold in the millions. $20 is about enough for one hour of works in terms of labour. This times expected sales, which are on the thousands at max for Lemmy, and you got what it takes to develop an app like this.
I agree $20 isnāt all that much on its own (for a developer itās likely only a third of an hour really) but thatās kind of the point. One personās full-time development wage is less than that of 30 people, so why charge just as much just because the audience is much smaller? It seems what youāre saying is that Sync isnāt currently viable and needs to be over priced (for a comparable product) to survive.
Also, wouldnāt Sync be the equivalent of an indie game in this comparison? Why donāt those games have to charge more than the AAA games to make up for the smaller customer base?
I can turn it back around on you and say why do you think the worth is detached from how much usage it gets from its users? If anything something we use and enjoy using should be getting more rather than a one off AAA game weāll enjoy for 20 hours one month.
Boy do I have some stuff to sell you then! How much do you happen to enjoy air would you say?
Haha, he down voted you.
That comment was actually meant to be to someone else lol. Oh well, wanna join my promising business opportunity? This thread has a bunch of potential suckers customers
Thereās a resource and human effort cost that is the backing behind the pricing of most things. Iām actually having a very difficult time thinking of something thatās priced strictly based on the time+enjoyment metric without factoring labour+material at all outside of maybe famous works or art or other things that are āvaluableā simply because they are rare. Are you able to provide an example of something commonly sold that would follow the time+enjoyment pricing scheme to help me wrap my head it?
A cruise and a staycation donāt cost the same even if theyāre for the same duration, even if you get sick on the cruise and have to cut the trip short. It feels like youāre saying āI actually really enjoy the staycation, and even though more resources go into a cruise, Iāll gladly pay more to stay at home then go on the cruiseā and that canāt possibly be what youāre sayingā¦
Iām actually having a very difficult time thinking of something thatās priced strictly based on the time+enjoyment metric without factoring labour+material
Just to be clear I think at a base level labour and material should still be taken into an account. The problem right now is these apps are essentially warring over your attention and in order to do so are hacking our ape brains. Now this isnāt necessarily a bad thing, that relationship can be somewhat symbiotic, we get entertainment they get ad revenue. However the situations gotten dire as they need to drive profits up and steal attention from each other and instead of innovating and progressing their platform theyāre maliciously implementing ways to keep you on their platform. We need to swap to a system thatās revolved around our money being spent where our enjoyment is at. This negates malicious ad revenue driven profits and might actually drive an era of innovation across big tech which hasnāt happened since the early 2010ās.
When talking directly about the fediverse, sure the devs love working on lemmy, but for how long. Quite frankly nobody will agree but we should be paying them to work on it as we should be paying instance admins in some capacity. This is an ad free experience we should really put our money where our mouth (enjoyment) is.
circuitfarmerYeah, thatās insane. Also the experience IMHO is not supreme vs something like Summit. I donāt really understand the hype.
First actual full featured client, so timing is a huge advantage. Maybe weāll see a price dip when Boost for Lemmy comes out.
It is but it also isnāt. I paid $5 for sync pro for reddit and have gotten literally thousands of hours out of it. $20 isnāt that significant in the grand scheme of things if you like the app.
nudny ekscentrykIām on the verge. Letās be honest, itās fucking expensive. Where I live itās pretty much an entire dayās worth of work to buy this app. I understand LJ wanting to be paid for his work, but this steep pricing seems like he doesnāt believe in Lemmy and just wants to capitalise on it before it eventually goes to shit. Let me just point out greed was what originally drived us all off reddit.
Well to make it bearable, set your DNS to an adblocking like
dns.aguard-dns.com and the ads will just be blank cuz theyāre blocked.
I have adaway, I donāt see them anyway (or perhaps because Iām in EU? Apparently revoking tracking permission removes ads?)
Life in London is very very expensive, itās one of the most expensive cities in the world. And Sync author lives in London. I live in London myself and I can see his price as fair, lol.
Could you give me a comparison by telling me the price in baguettes?
Baguettes are banned since Brexit.
But charging London prices for people who donāt live in London isnāt really very equitable either
No one is forcing you to pay.