One-time payment for ad-free is live in Beta 25. It's $19.99 USD. Update your app if you don't see it
One-time payment for ad-free is live in Beta 25. It's $19.99 USD. Update your app if you don't see it
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Aaannd⦠Done.
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Hmm, why is it showing $31 for me?
Youāre not paying to remove ads. Youāre supporting the development and making it worthwhile for the developer to continue to create the app.
That it happens to remove ads is just a side benefit. You can remove ads from all apps using a VPN based ad blocker anyway (on android).
I understand the sentiment. Most devs that release Lemmy apps do so as a side projects. They donāt make money doing it. In fact, they actually losing money and time to work on their side projects. Itās actually amazing how many apps we now have in just a short time.
That being said, Sync developer is one of a few dev who work on a lemmy app full time. This results in higher quality app, even though itās still in beta right now. But since heās literally doing this for a living, heāll need to make some money to continue his work. People was begging for him to make an app for Lemmy, and he actually does it. Whether heāll continue doing this or not will depends on whether he can make a living or not. And since the market for Lemmy apps is so small, there is no other choice but to charge a higher price to make the calculus works. For a lot of people that rooting for him, paying $20 or $17/year is no brainer if it means they get to have their favorite app working on Lemmy.
Sync isnāt the type of app that needs to be worked on full time. Itās an alternate interface of an existing website.
This price is too steep and I will either wait for it to go down or switch to another app when they become more full featured.
The thing that set Sync and Apollo apart from a horde of other 3rd party reddit client apps was due to both dev was working full time on their app, and the quality of those apps prove it. The sync dev has been working full time on lemmy app in the past few weeks, and we can already see how good the app is compared o other lemmy apps.
If Apollo dev were also making a lemmy app, the price would be more or less the same simply due to small lemmy user base. The only way those devs can lower the price and still be able to sustain themselves is if lemmy gain a whole lot more total active users.
If itās too expensive (and $20 is too expensive), not enough people will pay and it will close.
At the moment, I have access to half a dozen apps to access the fediverse which are all free and perfectly OK.
So maybe, making this your full time job just isnāt viable at the moment.
The market will definitely speak on this one since the platform itself isnāt monetized and there are tons of other options for those who donāt want to pay that much. If it ends up not being workable, it wonāt be workable, and the model will need to adapt or fold.
Iād never pay that much for a phone app, personally, especially on android, because Iāve had apps that change dramatically to the point I no longer like/can use them. Itās a bit better on iOS because the devices are supported a lot longer with OS updates (literally the reason I switched after a lifetime with android flexibility - sick of apps not working and my phones not being supported officially for more than 2 years).
This isnāt to say I wonāt pay for things I want and support - I did pay for a Plex lifetime subscription like 9 years ago ($100, itās 120 now, and a large amount of paying for it is app access, but also managed home users so my close friends/family can be logged in to my account directly without impacting me in any way) because the value was well worth it after subscribing month to month to test it and using the free version for several years prior. The value for what I paid has increased substantially with new features and just simple longevity. The model seems to work well enough for what they provide, both to them and to their users. I can swap to another self-host if it falls apart, but in the 12 or so years Iāve been using it, only a small number of changes have negatively impacted me, and only slightly (tho I paid early, so if features were paywalled after being free, Iām not aware of it, tho they have made some previously paid things free, like plexamp). I can skip server updates and roll them back easily if it stops working with my OS, and my users wouldnāt know the difference for a long time.
This tends not to be the case with mobile apps because devices are constantly changing, and side-loading apks can be a challenge for your average person. Itās a lot less static overall than pc hardware, so app-breaking updates on older mobile hardware are way way more likely. I canāt afford new phones all the time, so thatās a problem to me.
Iām looking at the relative useful lifecycle of the software. If I can get maybe a couple years before my OS version isnāt properly supported to run the app anymore, and itās difficult to fix without upgrading hardware or rooting and flashing (not something everyone can or wants to do), I probably donāt want it. I turned off automatic app updates for years because of this issue, but they stop working after a while anyway.
Iād never pay that much for a phone app, personally, especially on android, because Iāve had apps that change dramatically to the point I no longer like/can use them.
You have different uses for your phone than I do. I have paid that much for a phone app. Hell, iāve paid 2.5 times that. Some video camera apps and music creation apps are defiantly higher than $20. And they are worth it. In the USA, this app is the cost of about 3-4 cups of chain coffee. Seems reasonable to me.
The beauty of the platform is that you do have choices. So enjoy your freedom of choice! Support something else! Have a great day!
I was talking about servers, not client apps.
Regarding the app, yes, $20 is too expensive for just turning off ads. Moon Reader Pro asks $8 for an ad-free experience, and yet I think itās a bit too much for me. But itās a market, and demand will correct the price. If nobody pays $20 to disable ads, the devs can consider reducing the price, at least temporarily. So I donāt see any problems here.
As for totally free apps, I consider them as a sort of gift. Some people are giving away the results of their labor for free, maybe because itās their hobby, or because of ideology, but definitely because they have spare time to work on their apps. But it can change, and active development can stop. The only thing able to motivate them to continue the work is a profit, allowing them to spend some time without sacrificing anything else. We can end up with ads, subscriptions, single-time payments, or maybe just donations. I think itās inevitable for active projects.
Yes we are paying to remove ads.
If people want to keep supporting the dev, just buy the subscription or check if he has a donations link. But this purchase is just what it says: Remove Ads.
No, weāre paying to remove ads. And $26 CDN to remove ads feels really high when I paid $3.69 to remove ads in Boost and $4.49 to remove ads in Relay in 2019.
I like how you bothered to speak of supporting the dev yet mentioned how to stop ads with a VPN based blocker.