David GerardAug 1, 2023

== HOW TO SET UP ON THE DECENTRALISED FEDERATED SERVICE "E-MAIL" IN 2023 ==

1. your problem is Google, MS and Yahoo.
2. SMTP over SSL *only*.
3. SPF, DMARC, DKIM
4. they don't like your IP or your face or can't be bothered or something and you have weeks of supplication hoping there's a human there
5. give up and outsource it

as a sysadmin, I always advise going straight to step 5

anyone using "e-mail" as an example of a successfully decentralised federated service in 2023 does not know what they're talking about and should be ignored

stop doing this

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EDIT: if you're a fatuous dipshit, read the replies before you answer. or better, don't.

Show threadJulia RezAug 1, 2023

@davidgerard

Yes.

I've run medium-sized mailservers and (oh, god) news-servers, and, no. Not doing that again.

TBH, I think the rot set in with ORBS.

Show threadDavid GerardAug 1, 2023
@JuliaRez yes, the whole reason for email going oligopoly is that spammers mean we can't have nice things
Show threadJulia Rez

@davidgerard

The notion of 'IP reputation' has turned out to be far more stupid and colonialist than I ever imagined.

The 'automation' of that turned into the sort of mess that's no doubt familiar to the T&S people who've had to deal with moderation-by-perl-script.

Aug 1, 2023 at 1:52pmWeb