Lots of people saying they're already in Fuck.
While I'm not in any position to debate what's the most accurate measurement of your position in this Highly Accurate and Rigorously Scientific timeline, I do feel that "Fuck" really comes when the food supply dwindles, water gets scarce (Hello Uruguay), coastal cities need to be evacuated and in general, our attempts to keep normality going become untenable.
But yeah, not going to argue where you are on this.
@pezmico True. We are in orange right now.
Except, IMHO, the orange is a lot shorter than this graph indicates and blends seamlessly into red.
Basically, by the time people concede that climate change is real, we will all be collectively saying "Oops."
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I vote fuck already.
We have water restrictions, soon to become droughts.
Food prices are rising already (for other reasons).
We had a heat wave in 2022 that killed thousands, and this year will be worse.
We have just figured out that AMOC is on the point of shutting down.
What you describe is the f*, f* and double fuck, just before we wipe out civilisation.
@gezza That was... surprisingly eloquent. Not joking. :)
I kinda agree with you, except the people in charge of 'declaring' the emergency have enough fat on their bones to last out the peasants who will, unfortunately be forced to broil first.
The "f*, f*, and double f*" stage will be declared only after the people in charge use up all their fat and begin to broil, sadly.
@pezmico I'd say we're at 'Oops' still in th UK.
People still drive low mpg petrol/diesel vehicles and fly more than necessary for holidays and business.
The effects of man-made climate change are still only an inconvenience for most and there's a general lack of compassion for those suffering extreme effects.
I reckon we'll get to 'Fuck' in the coming 10 years when our opportunities to mitigate will have gone.
I reckon a lot of folks are a lot closer to βfuckβ
@EpiphanicSynchronicity @pezmico that graph/visualization is amazingly dramatic. You scroll and scroll and scroll, and then...BAM. Holy cow. Oh dear. That hard turn at the bottom struck me exactly like an unexpected reveal in a movie.
It belongs on Hannah Frye's "Uncharted" podcast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gf6rbs, I think.
Plus the lives that would be saved...Speed kills
Yes to 55 mph nation(s) wide. Iβve driven across US, round tip, at 55mph 3 times in past 10 years.
6 reasons for 55 mph limit.
1. Tires. Any tire starts to hydroplane on wet roads at 55mph. Less heat stress on older or under inflated tires.
2. Dry? CA has 55 mph limit whenever towing something. Itβs just safer.
3. 55 is more fuel efficient. Drag increases exponentially compared to velocity. A little bit faster is a lot less efficient.
4. You likely arenβt tailgating the vehicle in front of you.
5. You have more time to safely react to anything that happens.
6. 1-5 allow you to reduce mental & physical stress & enjoy the trip more.
Traffic? Passers gonna pass. Some people just follow for miles when they could pass.
55 mph traffic backs up pretty quickly on busy highways. Some impatient people drive recklessly. In those cases 55 may not save lives. So I speed up a bit for awhile or pull over.
Some states require slower vehicles to pull over when 5+ are held up.
P.S. Train travel is a good option. Amtrak must be part of our rapid drawdown of fossil fuels. Plutocrats donβt like Amtrak so their politicians donβt either. So US Congress must be made* to make it better.
Good: Iβve crossed the US on Amtrak 5 times in 5 years. Coach seats are do-able & pretty inexpensive. Roomettes or rooms are nicer experience but can be very expensive. Book early if possible.
2 ways to make it better:
1. Expand auto-train coverage. People could travel across the country with their car. But without the time, effort, wear & tear (nanoplastics from tires) & Carbon Emissions. Expenses may well be favorable.
2. Expand baggage capacity. Open unused spaces on double deckers and provide baggage cars to other trains connecting across the country. Ex: depart from Boston to CHI: no baggage car. It joins the train from NYC with a baggage car, in Albany, but you canβt use it.
*Strike & only buy essentials if Congress won't take timely climate actions.
It does not matter whether climate change is caused by humans or not.
The fact that many forest fires are caused by lightning strikes, does not mean that we stand by the side without trying to reduce/prevent the damage.
The 'OOPS' phase that you show, is enough reason to get into action. Caused by humans or not.
Yeah,
Global north is in Oops.
Global south is in Fuuuck.
I'm at Planet of the Apes "You maniacs! You blew it up! Damn you! God damn you all to hell!"
@pezmico
I think we are still in the orange zone.
When people start to die in the thousands, that will be the oops zone.
The last zone will be bad.
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