Helen CzerskiThe evidence that cars don’t work as primary mass transport in cities is everywhere: traffic jams, air pollution, accident rates, the shocking fraction of city space taken up by parking spaces, safety barriers/bollards etc. This 100 year experiment should be declared over, and we should put proper effort into the systems that HAVE been shown to work and scale: walking, cycling, e-cargo bikes, cheap/accessible/reliable public transport. This “argument” about LTNs is just lazy delay. #LTN #cities
inaforest@helenczerski be nice to see some effort put into rural transport solutions, too, often forgotten or overlooked, we don't all live in a city OR work at desk-based activities..public transport in the burbs and beyond is a joke with a terrible punchline
mnemonicoverload@inaforest
This comes off as a bit of a weird deflection considering the original post was specifically about cities, nevertheless if we must ...
If you're talking about truely rural areas (farmhouses, cabin in the woods) then public transit has never and likely can never be applicable. If you mean rural towns, yes many used to have access by rail and can again. The only reason they don't is because of the false narrative that passenger trains (and public transit in general) must break even or make a profit as opposed to being run at a loss as a public service.
As for suburbs, yes but with the caveat that transit oriented suburbs (both legacy trolly suburbs and modern transit oriented suburbs) were / are designed quite differently from car dependent suburbs. Retrofitting existing car suburbs is actually a pretty big lift. Modern car dependent exurbs, OTOH, are likely a complete impossibility for service by transit. Their existence is wholly predicated and dependent on the use of personal private vehicles.
@mnemonicoverload @helenczerski thank s nemonic I'll read this later