Andrew PontiousJul 30, 2023

Maybe it was just how it was explained to me, but, man, the #Shadowrun #TTRPG seems like a lot of complexity for not much upside.

I'm finding in this time of my life where I'm trying a ton of #DnD5e alternatives, I like the ones the best that are simple and opinionatedly different.

But systems that try to match D&D's complexity, often older games, leave me cold.

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@apontious Shadowrun has a great setting and awful rules. Luckily, there are plenty of hacks of other systems to get the good parts without the bad.
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Show threadAndrew PontiousJul 30, 2023
@dbendit Loooool the campaign I tried (and bailed on) was using the Shadowrun rules for an entirely homebrew campaign, none of the setting at all.
Show threadkatreJul 30, 2023

@apontious @dbendit Noooo, why?

I run a Shadowrun campaign using Savage Worlds (and the Sprawlrunners splatbook) and it's great, I'm not a teenager I can't deal with the actual rules anymore.

Show threadAndrew PontiousJul 30, 2023
@katre @dbendit None of us are teenagers anymore, katre.
Show threadAndrew PontiousJul 30, 2023
@katre Soooo....you like Savage Worlds? What do you like about it?
Show threadkatreJul 30, 2023

@apontious I do like it! It's not as combat-focused as D&D, it's got more tactical depth than Fate, and it's a lot easier to learn than SR, so it's at kind of a sweet spot.

Also it's pretty easy to stay up random NPCs ("this guy's pretty lame, he's got d4s for everything, this lady's a serious threat, she's got d10s for a few things and d8s for everything else). Since my GM style is "seat of the pants sandbox", that's really useful for me.

Show threadAndrew PontiousJul 30, 2023
@katre Yeah, I really love #Genesys #TTRPG but the minion rules are a horrorshow if you're trying to do it by hand, and http://rpgsessions.com which does have support for it, doesn't do maps…
RPG Sessions

Show threadRawwwbJul 30, 2023
@apontious @katre I had a great Genesys game that ran for about 2 years, but we had to homebrew entire systems and totally disregarded anything to do with vehicles or minions.
Show threadBroxenJul 30, 2023

@katre @apontious I'd echo this. My current group is in our 3rd Shadowrun campaign. The 1st one was Shadowrun 5E and the rules were just so terrible. One player actually quit because he just couldn't figure it out.

We moved to #savageworlds for the 2nd and 3rd. The group absolutely loves it. While I typically GM, I'm playing now and my Face character has been so much fun. I'm able to essentially Buff/Debuff in combat with my social skills by rallying my allies or taunting/intimidating goons.