Trump "may die in prison" if he doesn't strike a deal: Legal analyst

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Trump "may die in prison" if he doesn't strike a deal: Legal analyst - Lemmy.world

You know, I don't know if I want him dead in prison or squealing like a stuck pig more. I'm inclined towards Team Sellout on an intellectual level, but his corpse slumped in a concrete box has a certain visceral appeal.
I believe the world doesn’t care but everyone wants him gone and away from our lives.
That will be happen because he is in jail, not because he struck a deal. There is no deal to strike at this point on the documents case. He had a chance to give them back.

Oh, there’s always a deal, at least for him. The rules do not apply evenly to start with, and even though he’s not that rich, he’s still part of the aristocracy.

Even though he broke all sorts of laws that contain the words “betrayed your nation to foreign adversaries”, started a sloppy coup last time he lost an election, and basically bragged about it in between perjuring himself, the best solution for everyone is for him to quietly fade into irrelevance.

It’s always better not to make a martyr if you can help it, it just isn’t worth it

Plus, the cruelest punishment I can think of is letting him use up the last couple years of his charismatic energy out of the public eye, so when he inevitably comes back he’d reveal himself to be the rambling dementia patient he’s been for a while.

And I don’t mean that as an insult - read his speeches. His delivery is amazing. Take that away and just read them (especially from the most recent ones), and even if you realized he was spewing word salad it’s still shocking

I think that every day until I realize 1/3 of the population would still vote for him without a second thought. It's been far beyond sad and pitiable for years now.

Now it's simply malicious and a direct threat to every single one of our lives. The other 2/3rds need to start treating it as such.

If it's only a third, he loses!
Only if the other two thirds actually vote.
1/3 doesn’t vote, so it comes out looking like 50/50 in the polls.

The culling of Trump voters during the pandemic and the rise of Gen Z and Gen Alpha voters who are sick of this shit will hopefully tilt the scales in favor of Biden. I would genuinely worry if Biden died and Harris took over, though.

By the way, since this is Kbin and not Reddit, fuck the Trump voters who died because they were too stupid to take precautions during the pandemic. We're all better off without you. Fewer potential Wal-Mart shooters as far as I'm concerned.

We’re all better off without you. Fewer potential Wal-Mart shooters as far as I’m concerned.

I just wish they hadn’t taken out so many innocent people in the process. I attended 3 funerals because of the virus and a friend of mine is now a brain damaged shell of what he once was. Some reason the latter bothers me more. Maybe because I have to just sit there and hear him start screaming about groomers while gently leading him back to “have you thought about going back to work?”. I miss him.

Another 20% will vote for him even with a second thought juat to own the libs, so it will be close at the polls.
Or they’ll just vote for anyone the GOP runs.
Who is he going to squeal on? He’s the top target.
"It was all Mike Pence's idea."
What I'd like to see is him taking the easy way out, if you get my drift. You know, take an early retirement with his wife Ivanka. Spend the rest of eternity at his golf course.
With CNN playing pure opinion pieces on him 24/7. And he has a smartphone..... with no data or wifi connection so he can't use it, except to fuss and moan that he can't reply with his latest hot-take on the current news.

He needs the Napolean treatment – exile and blockaded.

While it isn’t really feasible to drop him off on an unnamed tropical island and leave him there, just sticking him in a prison cell and cutting off his access to the media (both traditional and social) is how you end a tyrant. You demonstrate to anyone still watching that the tyrant is powerless, and then you let them rot away and die alone.

Execute them, and you create a martyr. Let them go, pardon them, go light on the prison sentence, and you just signed up for another insurrection in a few years.

He needs the Napolean treatment – exile and blockaded.

Napoleon was a genius of military operations. He had plenty of flaws, but he was on another level from the subject of this discussion.

The idea that he might not is rather off-putting
This goes to show how hard it is to put a rich white^orange?^ man in prison. The whole system failed at every turn and there’s STILL the chance he might become president again…ain’t that something?

Who would win in a three way fight to the death between 45, meatball ron, and little piss baby?

USA.

One can hope
I'm just thinking about all the QAnon conspiracy theories that are gonna bloom when he dies. They'll never accept it, they'll just go crazier.
Which is why they need mental care and not be allowed to run around pretending reality isn’t real
True, they’re so far gone they can never come back to reality. But who cares? Some of them will act out and land in jail or worse. The majority will just keep writing text on the internet and if you don’t engage you will never have to hear from them again.
Don’t threaten me with a good time
I hope he gets what he deserves
There’s not enough life in him to serve that sentence
Woah, dude, that kind of graphic violence has no place on this forum!
Never going to happen. This man has never faced a consequence in his life and it's not going to start now.
Yeah, and I “may win” the lottery.
If I win the mega millions, I promise to give you a million dollars lol.

Oh no!

Anyways, has the weather been really crazy where you are as well?

Well my tiny lawn sure is loving the rainforest conditions. It was nice this morning sipping my coffee and watching the bees be really busy.
Guys like Trump never strike deals, he will count on the next Republican President pardoning him, which of course they will
Oh no, he's settled before. He claims that he doesn't, but John Oliver made it clear that he does, in spite of his bravado.
I've got a crisp $5 bill here says he never, ever, never admits criminal culpability. Ever. As a Garden City construction scion, Trump was raised in both the KKK and NYC Italian/Russian mob, it's what colors every action he has ever taken, or will take. He's a cookie cutter mobster, and he'll never take a deal.
I’d never bet against that. I’m convinced that he’ll never face consequences.
I always bet against good news. Either way I still win.
I will take that action. I say he takes that deal. Instead of paying me please donate to Doctors without Borders. If he doesn’t in say four years let me know what charity to send my five dollars to.
you are down for a fin
Which is why multiple state charges need to stick so he can't be pardoned everywhere.
Promise?
Read that in John Muhlaneys voice
I will accept this conclusion.
well, that sounds okay but I would like someone beating the shit out of him with a stick first

Personally I would love an unexpected defection to Russia.

But I’m kind of a sucker for unexpected endings.

What would Russia want with him at this point? They have bigger fish to try, like the war they’re losing in Ukraine.
Oh, you’re so correct, but when has good ideas ever been part of their plan?

Well if I were them I would set him up in a mansion and give him a microphone. He could go scream about how he is the government in exile and the US government would be in the awkward position of not only having to pay him a pension and bodyguards, within Russia, but not be able to silence him or extradite him.

It’s not like he has anything Russia wants but he could be useful as a ego attack on the US. Sorta like Snowden or that WikiLeaks guy.

No. Not with the knowledge and documents that he'd gladly give to them for a deal.

He is pretty ignorant, he probably gave them everything already, you know just for bragging rights.

But without joking around we definitely don’t want him I’m Russia’s hands.

I’m failing to see the downside here.
Really? With Aileen Cannon on the case, I doubt it. After all we've seen over the past eight years, I've gotta see results before I get excited. The taste of Mueller still weighs heavily on the tongue.
That’s just the one case, though. We also have the 1/6 case (Filed in D.C., where the alleged crimes took place) and the Georgia case. Neither of which Aileen Cannon has any chance of overseeing.
I have myself for what inhuman things I’d be able to morally excuse if they happened to Trump

He’s a danger to every living being on the planet. See the new GOP climate proposal?

No moral excuses needed.

God I fuckin hope so