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Ricki Yasha TarrYou shouldn't getting a medal for being a feminist. Everyone should be a feminist, and it should be non-controversial, because it just means treating women as if the were people because they actually are people.
I have to make a confession here, @theropologist actually said this to me in a conversation and I told him to Beige it, but he said it wasn't a man's place to explain feminism, so I posted it, because I thought it was pretty dope, and he's a cool rooster.
CJ PalomaHonestly I think men can and should post things about feminism *specifically to other men* . Especially since it's likely to go further.
When white people say to other white people: "Black lives matter to me personally and I think we should do more for racial equality" the reality is it does make more of an impact than if that white person hears the same thing on tv from some Black activist or from their one Black acquaintance.
We don't have to -like- that our privileges open more doors, but we can use the privileges we do have to open them for good.
Dudes can just start with: "Guys, I'm talking to you about this:" and then say "We shouldn't expect medals…"
@CJPaloma @theropologist I agree for the most part, I think that correction is important also from peers, I've been wrong about shit, not necessarily meaning to be, but someone gently saying Hey, that isn't ideal and this is why, has helped me get a better understanding, even if it smarts in the moment.
carrickdb@RickiTarr @theropologist I would love it if men talked about feminism (favorably, of course). They rarely do, leading me to conclude that they don’t care. (OTOH, women also rarely do, which is distressing.)
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@carrickdb @RickiTarr I think people have made a lot of straw men out of feminism that have more to do with whatever personal axes they have to grind than what feminism actually is. To me feminism is an extension of humanism. To be anti-feminist is to say that the humanity of a certain group of people is conditional. That is an untenable position and should not be acceptable in rational debate.
@theropologist @carrickdb Truth! It's not a Women's issue It's an Everyone Issue.
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Saw the Barbie movie yesterday and I remembered your review. I fuckin loved it!
Saw the Barbie movie yesterday and I remembered your review. I fuckin loved it!
Olly E@RickiTarr right? Why is treating women as lesser the non-controversial stance?!
I think it’s people that have an issue with not being greater than the other group that turn it into a controversial issue.
Applies to gender, race, sexuality, the list goes on!
@olly If you've been doing life on easy mode, you don't want to lose the advantage, God forbid you have to prove your merit.
vieuxnezNot even for being the feminest?
Stevens R MillerI teach computer science at a university. Our department has an unusually large percentage of women as majors. It's about 30%. When I mention that, some people say, "That's a shame. Computers are the perfect profession for a woman to go into."
To which I always respond, "You're so right! Because any job she wants to do is the perfect profession for a woman to go into."
wheatley gaming@RickiTarr I think a big part of it is that some people think women are *already* being treated fairly, therefore anyone who still cares about feminism is a weird extremist
But, like, that is objectively false, there tons of ways in which women are being discriminated against, so it still doesn’t make sense
@outerspec It's the same people who think racism is over
natriumchloride@outerspec haha yeah fivhting for equality isn't a one and done thing unfortunately. We've got to either fight for a right or defend it
@RickiTarr but you should totally get a medal for how you are responding to some of these …ummm... oh so helpful replies. JFC.
Pierce WetterOk, but I'm a Princess Leia feminist: She did everything the boys did and stood up to Vader while being tortured. (Though she also kissed her brother...)
It's 3rd and 4th wave feminism where they lose me.
In fact, all "punish the people of the present for the sins of the past" movements lose me. My grandfather was railroaded by Woodrow Wilson and had to spend 5 years in Leavenworth for sedition. Doesn't mean I deserve anything.
@obastard Feminism isn't punishing men, unless they deserve it, lots of them have deserved it, but if you're treating people equally then you shouldn't have anything to worry about. But there are radicals like in every group, and there are also victims who have been hurt so often they are understandably wary.
Jamie MasonYep, gender roles that are enforced to represent classes and the hierarchy of people.
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