a reminder from your friends on the fediverse. boost and tell your friends who still use X (why?????) that the future is here 

all the cool X developers left a while ago. it's fundamentally not suited to today's requirements. but hey! the future is now!

@XOrgFoundation but what about the cool X features that Wayland can't do????
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I don't know the X11 users must know something about it.

@hikari @XOrgFoundation I just watched how a speaker that gave a presentation he was asked to also share on zoom had to switch back to X because it did not work on Wayland. Good that X still existed on his notebook. Also I use X everyday for remoting. I also like how the modular design allows innovation in window manager design.

@uecker @hikari @XOrgFoundation zoom support sharing in wayland now, what is the date of that apresentation?

@Vilian @hikari @XOrgFoundation May this year. But even if this is a transitional problem which can be solved by updating zoom, it misses the point. A lot of old software will never work with Wayland and even if Wayland proponents dismiss this as irrelevant, it causes great harm to many users for no good reason.

@uecker @hikari @XOrgFoundation there is already work arounds anyway, and xorg gonna still exist too, they can use, but xorg has fundamentals flaws that it wasn't possible to fix, and implement new things that wayland can, that why the transition was needed

@Vilian @hikari @XOrgFoundation Which fundamental flaw would make it impossible to extend the X protocol? X is a very generic protocol that has been extended over decades.

@uecker @Vilian @XOrgFoundation the fact it has extended over the decades is the fundamental flaw.
Its gotten to a point where maintaining it is annoying and not worth it, that's how convoluted the codebase has got. There is a reason why Wayland was built from the ground up instead of extending the X11 codebase.

@hikari @Vilian @XOrgFoundation *worth* for whom? I can see that some developers have more fun rewriting everything from scratch instead of maintaining software. Fair enough. But then they should just say this. But the "impossible to maintain", "fundamentally flawed", "you do not need remoting anyway, believe me - and it is broken anyway" (while I use it almost daily) nonsense and gaslightinig as a justification for breaking features and compatibility has to stop.