If I were a better man, I'd give up fish. I blame the Japanese for creating so many tasting things.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-023-00795-w/figures/2

The girl at the supermarket (I say "girl" because she appeared about 12 to my middle-aged eyes even though she was probably 20 and deserves to be called "woman") asked excitedly today if I was a vegan based on cart contents, but I had to tell her alas, no, mostly just shopping for someone with a dairy allergy.

Fig. 2: Relative environmental footprint from GHG emissions of diet groups in comparison to high meat-eaters (>100 g d−1). | Nature Food

Note that eating the rich and thereby stopping all the private jet and yacht bullshit would blow any other dietary change you could make out of the water.

Since the "Elon Musk's Jet" tracker popped up in my feed, I figured I'd do some quick math. Based on a meat diet releasing roughly 6 kg of carbon per day for a 2000 calories a day diet (from random googling) and Elon's one trip generating 47 kt of CO2.

With this single trip, Musk generated more carbon than a would be saved by a heavy meat eater going vegan for 29 years.

I mean, you probably should eat less meat, but it won't save a planet full of billionaire assholes.

@ucblockhead there are millions of people for every billionaire and all of the smaller amounts still add up to a lot. Even if we eat the rich, it's critical that the entire global richest 10% (annual income of ~$30k/year and more) gets onto a three ton lifestyle by 2030.
https://www.sitra.fi/en/publications/pathways-to-1-5-degree-lifestyles-by-2030/
Pathways to 1.5-degree lifestyles by 2030 - Sitra

Would you switch your car to a hybrid? Or imported meat for domestic fish? What about moving to a smaller apartment? There are many pathways to 1.5-degree lifestyles.

Sitra

@marvin The real unfortunate thing about that article is that the 1.5C ship seems to have sailed. We're projected to hit that sometime between now and 2027: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/may/17/global-heating-climate-crisis-record-temperatures-wmo-research

We are essentially there now and short of massive societal changes, that is not going to change. We have to go way, way beyond telling people to change their diets, drive less, etc.

World likely to breach 1.5C climate threshold by 2027, scientists warn

UN agency says El Niño and human-induced climate breakdown could combine to push temperatures into ‘uncharted territory’

The Guardian

@ucblockhead it's very much a "both / and' situation, not either or. Eat the rich AND everyone remaining still has to consume less and modify lifestyles to create a future that doesn't rely on fossil fuels.

Or we keep burning down our children's future. Eating the seed corn. Narrowing the options left.

I've started to openly despise people who fly for vacations, l or cling to high consumption lifestyles. Their thoughts on climate are irrelevant. They have nothing to teach others.

@marvin For what it's worth, a non-electric car may spew more carbon per mile per passenger than a fully loaded passenger jet for many distances.
@ucblockhead I'm well aware of full lifecycle carbon costs. Today's expectation of long distance travel as a routine activity is incompatible with 1.5c, 2c, or really any climate target.
@marvin I recently took one of those online "what's your carbon footprint" quizzes, and the questions around air travel all said "excluding business". This is exactly the problem, because when my company sends me to Tokyo or London (which they do) the planes don't magically stop spewing CO2. Yet nearly all the talk of cutting is aimed at individuals, not corporations despite businesses being responsible for half of all air travel.

@ucblockhead @marvin Wow. That's....selective especially for a carbon quiz.

I've recently been hinted at that my personal three year moratorium on corporate travel is probably no longer be possible, at least with certain customers.

@gedvondur @marvin It was nice while it lasted. Looks like I'm going back to 3-4 international trips a year like before the pandemic, at least until I retire. (Hopefully soon)