josefi think a lot about how apparently, someone visiting pink floyd's studio in the mid-70s noticed they had several minimoogs set up with gaffer tape all over them, because when they got a sound they liked, they'd put the tape over the knobs so the settings wouldn't get changed, and invoice the record label for another fresh minimoog. i think this is how you're actually supposed to manage python software installations, just buy a new computer every time you finally get the correct packages set up
before i get the replies, yes the gaffer tape was probably for when they took the synths on tour, and yes i know what virtual environments are
Denton@jk this is how I feel whenever a another virtual environment appears. Virtualenv? Pipenv? Venv? Condo? Pew?
How many more will exist???
Raven667@Denton @jk I just don't understand how Python management is so much more difficult than Perl considering the age of both.
I use the heck out of cpanspec and just plain rpmbuild to make well-formed RPM packages with all the dependencies tracked that we can manage in-house with yum/dnf, but setuptools doesn't do any auto-dep tracking, leading to venv and Java-style bundles or a lot of manual work making custom bdist_rpm command lines.
I don't know why the common case is so difficult
Haelwenn /элвэн/ 
Kevin Collas-Arundell
Phracker@Phracker2Art I wouldn't say replicable environments is a skill issue necessarily, in a lot of cases they still have to be configured manually.
The variety of methods to do it can be a bit dizzying, but it's better than no replicability which has been a bit of a problem with Python.