Although the media hit Trump really hard, the left-on-left violence seems pretty unprecedented.

It;s clear that the left knows that he’s not establishment, like Biden is, and that if he got a fair chance, he’d probably stomp Biden.

A vaccine conspiracy theorist has no chance against any sane person

He wants vaccine testing similar to almost all of western europes. That’s not a conspiracy theory.

sane person

So…not biden?

If they weren’t nervous, they wouldn’t be trying everything they could to discredit, trash and suppress his voice.

He wants vaccine testing similar to almost all of western europes. That’s not a conspiracy theory.

Bullshit. He’s been peddling dangerous crackpot theories for decades:

Kennedy made his name in the anti-vaccine movement in 2005, when he published a story alleging a massive conspiracy regarding thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative that had been removed from all childhood vaccines except for some variations of the flu vaccine in 2001. In his piece, Kennedy completely ignored an Institute of Medicine immunization safety review on thimerosal published the previous year; he’s also ignored the nine studies funded or conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that have taken place since 2003.

Coming from someone who read some of his fantastic environmental work from the Bush II era, I can honestly say he’s ventured so far into the deep end of paranoia he should be shunned everywhere he goes. Children are dying because of him.

He’s against mercury in the vaccines.

A lot have been removed since his initial push against it, because the vaccines we were pumping into everyone had them.

I thank him for his work to get poisonous amounts of mercury out of the vaccines

“Thiomersal (also spelled thimerosal, especially in the United States) is an organomercury compound used as a preservative in vaccines to prevent bacterial and fungal contamination.[9] Following a mandated review of mercury-containing food and drugs in 1999, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) determined that under the existing vaccination schedule “some children could be exposed to a cumulative level of mercury over the first 6 months of life that exceeds one of the federal guidelines on methyl mercury.”[20][21] They asked vaccine makers to remove thiomersal from vaccines as quickly as possible as a precautionary measure, and it was rapidly phased out of most US and EU vaccines,[22][23] but is still used in multi-dose vials of flu vaccines in the U.S.”

I’m pro-vaccine. So is RFK Jr. He has concerns with some of the testing and chemicals in some of the mandatory vaccines.

I’d rather have overly cautious studies when it comes to big pharma, their limited liability, their rich history in bribing US officials (including FDA members), pumping the country full of poison (see opioids) while lying to people about what is in their drugs.

It’s amazing what happens when you don’t stop reading a source when you find something useful to lift out of context:

"Upon conclusion of their review, the FDA, in conjunction with the other members of the US Public Health Service (USPHS), the National Institutes of Health (NIH), CDC and Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA), in a joint statement with the AAP in July 1999 concluded that there was “no evidence of harm caused by doses of thimerosal found in vaccines, except for local hypersensitivity reactions.”.

And more:

"The notion that thiomersal causes autism has led some parents to have their children treated with costly and potentially dangerous therapies such as chelation therapy, which is typically used to treat heavy metal poisoning, due to parental fears that autism is a form of “mercury poisoning”.[16] As many as 2 to 8% of autistic children in the U.S., numbering as many as several thousand children per year, receive mercury-chelating agents.

Your own source made my point for me. Why didn’t you read the whole thing?

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So it can cause issues to some…why force it on 2 month olds?

"The notion that thiomersal causes autism has led some parents to have their children treated with costly and potentially dangerous therapies such as chelation therapy, which is typically used to treat heavy metal poisoning, due to parental fears that autism is a form of “mercury poisoning”.[16] As many as 2 to 8% of autistic children in the U.S., numbering as many as several thousand children per year, receive mercury-chelating agents.

I don’t get why you think this argues against me? I never said it caused autism, I don’t believe it does.

So it can cause issues to some…why force it on 2 month olds?

Local hypersensitivity reactions happen with all vaccines. That’s why they tell you to stay in the pharmacy for 15 minutes after you get a shot. It has nothing to do with thimerosol. The reason you accept that is that we take immunological advice from immunologists, not from partisan nincompoops who read something that sounds bad on the internet and go, “SeE!? WhY mAkE ShOt? iT hUrT bAbY1!!”

I don’t get why you think this argues against me? I never said it caused autism, I don’t believe it does.

I’m reiterating why your “why not play it safe” shtick is a toxic mischaracterization and deflection that downplays the very real harm his JAQ conspiracy ideation has caused in the world. The answer to “why not play it safe?” is “you’re not playing it safe, your trolling and people are taking your megaphoned ignorance as gospel, often at the expense of their own children.”

Local hypersensitivity reactions happen with all vaccines.

You’re not making a great case to mandate over 30 vaccines for kids without proper testing.

It has nothing to do with thimerosol. The reason you accept that is that we take immunological advice from immunologists, not from partisan nincompoops who read something that sounds bad on the internet and go, “SeE!? WhY mAkE ShOt? iT hUrT bAbY1!!”

Nobody is arguing that. But rigorous testing in line with most western nations, seems fair.

I’m reiterating why your “why not play it safe”

Yeah, I don’t like when the government forces every child to get a shot from a big pharma organization that pays the FDA to get through the testing with shitty made up science. I think there should be rigorous testing, which there are good trials, but just to be more in line with most of western europe, as opposed to safeguarding big pharma companies.