Say it ain’t so - Lemmy.world

I know it’s a shipost and this meme is at least 15 years old. But meat, cheese, and white bread (especially the ones in the US with added sugar) were never healthy
Since when is meat unhealthy?
Although high in nutrients, the difficulty in digestion makes it a carciogen. Particularly red meat - bird and fish (pre omnipresent plastics and heavy metals) are relatively healthier.
I think it’s more the industrial farming and food processing practices that make it carcinogenic.
It’s not. Remember that evolutionary incentives don’t care if you tend to live very far fast 32.

It actually is. Most carcinogenic evidence on meats come from processed meats. Per cited references, eating way too much red meat is “probably” a cause for cancer, but eating processed meats is definitely a cause for cancer.

And by way too much, 1.5lbs/week. I love a good steak, but don’t really eat 1.5lbs/week of it.

Red meat, processed meat and cancer

Did you know that eating more than 700 grams (raw weight) of red meat a week increases your risk of bowel cancer? Or that the risk of developing bowel

Cancer Council NSW
Yeah I just don’t believe you bud.

mdanderson.org/…/your-guide-to-eating-less-red-me…

Well good thing science doesn’t give a shit what you believe lol. We’ve known this for decades at this point.

“That’s where the truth lies, right down here in the gut. Do you know you have more nerve endings in your gut than you have in your head? You can look it up. Now, I know some of you are going to say, ‘I did look it up, and that’s not true.’ That’s ’cause you looked it up in a book. Next time, look it up in your gut. I did. My gut tells me that’s how our nervous system works.” - Stephen Colbert, 2006
Would you happen to know any papers with compelling evidence of this?
They use “can” and “probably” in scientific sources because it’s not entirely confirmed. The best citation I could find was “probably” an increased risk if you eat more than 500g of meat per week.
Red meat, processed meat and cancer

Did you know that eating more than 700 grams (raw weight) of red meat a week increases your risk of bowel cancer? Or that the risk of developing bowel

Cancer Council NSW
If it is hard to digest meat, why do carnivores have shorter guts than herbivores?

“Hard” doesn’t necessarily mean “requiring many resources” in this case. It has more nutrients, and as such it’s usually not digested as fully as herbivores digest plant matter.

It’s harder on the system doing the digestion.

That’s sorta half the story. The official statement is that consistently eating more than 1.5lbs (500g) of red meat per week “probably” (their word) increases your cancer risk. The real story is that eating more than 50g of processed meat per week dramatically increases your cancer risk. To the extent that processed meat is ranked as a “Group 1” carcinogen.

Flip-side, grains and legumes have been tied to cancer as well. I can’t find exactly what category, but they seem fairly convinced they are carcinogenic.

It is, sadly, like the California Cancer joke, where almost everything causes cancer if taken to excess.

Red meat, processed meat and cancer

Did you know that eating more than 700 grams (raw weight) of red meat a week increases your risk of bowel cancer? Or that the risk of developing bowel

Cancer Council NSW