eva.schue
Azdamn this is amazing, the EU is mandating fast charging stations every 60km along major highways *and* they must be payable by card/contactless without third party app downloads: https://www.fleeteurope.com/en/new-energies/europe/article/fast-chargers-every-60-km-key-eu-motorways
one of my biggest bugbears with new services (parking, shopping, etc) is requiring me to download and install or sign up for some shitty data-harvesting app that adds no value.
old_tootbrute@az YES. fuck any service that requires an app.
Richad A@az Especially when the cost to park is five francs, of which one franc is for the damn app.
markener@az same i hate it so much
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"I ALREADY INSTALLED THE APP IT'S CALLED FIREFOX"
"I ALREADY INSTALLED THE APP IT'S CALLED FIREFOX"
@seqastian @az
I wasn't just talking about vehicle charging stations. Or the "app as an alternative to a credit card" payment model.
Every company is eager for all their customers to install their latest app, even for content or information (that could be accessed over a website).
Matthieu Weber 🇫🇷/🇫🇮@az using a generic payment system instead of a proprietary app that works only on a proprietary smartphone would indeed be a big improvement.
ManSpyder@az This is the way.
Kenneth John Bardsley@az
BRILLIANT !
BRILLIANT !
Yves Garenne@az je passe ma vie dans les hôtels, et quasiment aucun n'a de bornes pour véhicules électriques.
@az even though EU has many issues but they only can save the rest of the world from unchecked monopoly
exus1pl@az great news, the charging ecosystem is really stupid ATM. Maybe this will make it more usable.
The Animal and the Machine
Stephen Thorne@az This is also big: "All prices must be clearly displayed to the customers: in euros per kW or per minute/session."
Right now, a petrol station shows their per-liter fuel prices in numerals a meter high, while to find out the price of an EV charging station on the same premesis, you've got to install an app and drill down to figure it out.
msgbi
Lynn D@az that is fantastic news!
Simon Brooke@az fast chargers are already obsolete and a waste of scarce resources. There isn't enough metal for the great electric car economy, and we will regret this kind of reckless profligacy.
Andreas H.@az Even more relevant for most people I guess will be the requirement that the actual price for charging has to be visible to the customer.
Sir David Nielsen@az @lisamelton that is going to solve a lot of issues. My parents took their new EV to Sweden for a holiday and everywhere they needed to install some app to recharge. It was a major hassle, trying to enable data roaming, hoping it wouldn’t bankrupt anyone, just to get a few dollars worth of electrons to let them leave Sweden.
Jeff McFadden@az Boy, it's a good thing it doesn't take fossil fuel to mine copper and build all those.
Coz otherwise - well, just look at the news.
Coz otherwise - well, just look at the news.
Frances LarinaWait, wait; where's the lock-in? Where's the data harvesting?
This is simply not sustainable.
/sarc
Marek Fořt@az this is exactly what I missed when renting an electric car in Italy for three days. Fast chargers were relatively far apart and a bunch meant a detour of 10-20 minutes. Thanks for sharing!
Reid Ellis ☑️
@az I did not understand from reading the article whom the mandate is addressed to. Commercial charging providers individually? Surely not. Collectively? Yes but then who is accountable for filling a gap in the network? Public highway authorities? Again, weird (are nations not allowed to have highways that do not comply?)
Kigelia@az absolutely superb way of doing things especially contactless I have a phone full of apps and a wallet full of cards for different providers.
Jan Rychter@az @asymco This is fantastic news. I was hoping the EU would step in. The current app idiocy is a huge barrier, and companies apparently are just copying one another, preferring "app user counts" over customer experience.
I traveled in the EU in an EV. Lack of chargers was not a problem. Getting through the horrible and buggy app registrations was.
adingbatponder 
👾@az Great. Now hands up who goes on hols within 100km of one of these major lucky roads?
Petr Růžička@az that woulld be very good business for those who build charging station. Every 60km? Would there be something else but charging stations everywhere?
Jon
billheywood@az
No one is going to build those hydrogen fuelling stations, unless they send MEPs to do it
No one is going to build those hydrogen fuelling stations, unless they send MEPs to do it
Ellen Shapiro@az omfg I wish we’d do this in the US