Sigh.. our latest challenge in building a cabinet is buying a table saw. Recommendations are appreciated! 💸💸

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But guys think of all the money I'll save on this DIY
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@Gina
I don't think I trust any of their tools. Even if you wanted something cheep. I think there are better cheep options out there
@Twelve Idk of all the cheap models this one seems to get the best reviews.
@Gina you can do a lot with a tracksaw instead of table saw. Sometime ago I got the cordless one from parkside. Yes, I know, it’s from Lidl, but it’s become my preferred budget brand. Not everything from them is worth getting, but this one is actually pretty good: https://www.lidl.nl/p/parkside-performance-accu-handcirkelzaag-20v-zonder-accu/p100357953 (it says “handcirkelzaag”, but it really is a plunge track saw)
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@jeroen94704 Can you make 45 degree cuts with a tracksaw?
@Gina Yes, it tilts sideways, but if that is important and/or a significant part of your use cases then maybe look for an alternative since that is definitely not the Parkside's strong point.
@jeroen94704 But then, why not just get a table saw? What's the advantage of a track saw?
@Gina For a couple hundred € you get a decent track saw with accessories that will let you do some high % of what a table saw can do. For that amount of money you’ll get a frustrating table saw that you’ll hate (at least, that’s my experience, YMMV).
@Gina oh, and for me the compactness is also a big plus. A table saw just takes up a lot of space.
@jeroen94704 so guess what. You were right 😅
@Gina 😳Depending on which bit I was right about that could make me feel good about myself or sorry for you

As someone that started with a new DeWalt job site table saw and quickly replaced it with a much larger used delta, I agree with @jeroen94704

A cheap table saw is tiny and frustrating. You'll struggle cutting any large sheet materials. Whereas a track saw is virtually unlimited in capacity, you just have to add additional track if necessary. It's also much smaller and portable. You'll get much more quality for the same money.

@Gina Agreed, but looking at it and the customer reviews I tend to say: give it a try.

* It's not super expensive
* the table is cast instead of pressed sheet steel
* it has two (rather wide) slots so you could make cross cut sled for it
* the fence seems to be adustable over a decent amount
* according to one review, the dust collection actually functions! I know of one other affordable table saw where this is a real weakness.

@Gina /2
Cons, based on the reviews:
* the stand is not very sturdy
* motor startup is a little rough, a soft start would be a good addition.
@Gina a good tablesaw is an investment for a lifetime. Not saying you shouldn't buy one, but you should choose wisely :)

@sheogorath Exactly! There's a saying in Dutch: "goedkoop is duurkoop" which translates to "cheap will end up being expensive." I'd rather spend a little bit more knowing that I chose well.

Still though, looking for a midrange model. Something like this: https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/scheppach-zaagtafel-2000-watt-hs110/9300000029797805/?bltgh=qzvlnAqZWvF1yzjH4IBOQg.2_54.57.ProductTitle

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@Gina
Bosch GTS10XC.
PTS10 will do anyway. I have a used one to sell if you want, but it's far away, I'm afraid.

@Gina
I personaly only seen a dewalt branded one. Idk what too really look for inn one, but i saw some replys here had exelnt tips like buying second hand and get something cheepish to test out and slurge when it breaks.

Personaly big fan of buying stuff 2nd hand, but tools I don't have experience with

@Gina a table saw is the one thing where there are only two types:

1) huge, heavy, immobile, very expensive, and precise.
2) junk

There are different flavors of junk but everything that's affordable and especially mobile is unadulterated junk.

For reference I have the Bosch green one (forget the number) and it too is junk. I only went for it because it was affordable and there's a mobile stand available for it (I don't have the space for a permanent setup).

@Gina the Bosch looks to be quite similar to the Scheppach one you're showing - exact same housing and table at least.
@Gina any thoughts on the LF1000 flip table saw?
@th I think we have a slightly different budget 😂

@Gina I got a cheapish Ryobi a long time ago and it has worked great. I used it to cut a dozen doors (to fit rhomboid doorframes in an old sagging house) among other things. Get some cheap sawhorses to enable cutting big things. Put a rag on top of them to prevent scratches.

Honestly my biggest problem is that the damn thing is so loud I developed a significant phobia of merely turning it on. So maybe get some ear protection too.

Also consider getting a hand planer to fix up little mistakes.