Google is trying to put the web in a cage in the same way they put your devices in a cage (Android, ChromeOS).

There’s one really easy, simple and efficient way to fight them: uninstall Chrome/Chromium, use #firefox

Do it. Now.

– But I prefer Chrome because of…

If you are not ready to sacrifice a little comfort (so little, Firefox is great) to save the web, then you don’t deserve a free web anyway. You are part of those killing it.

Remove Chrome. Install Firefox.

(with adblockers)

@ploum Also, Firefox has containers ❤️
@fenarinarsa @ploum What is this "container" functionality of Firefox??

@xtof @ploum Open tabs with different contexts. Very very very very useful. Also "facebook jail" extension opens all Meta/Facebook sites in a specific "jailed" context from the rest of the web.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/

Firefox Multi-Account Containers – Get this Extension for 🦊 Firefox (en-US)

Download Firefox Multi-Account Containers for Firefox. Firefox Multi-Account Containers lets you keep parts of your online life separated into color-coded tabs. Cookies are separated by container, allowing you to use the web with multiple accounts and integrate Mozilla VPN for an extra layer of privacy.

@ploum @fenarinarsa @xtof does that mean it’s harder for Facebook to track your non-Facebook behaviour?

ie when I do a search for “piano keyboards” on my local Music Store website I don’t go to Facebook and end up bombarded with ads for plastic music instruments?

@ronane Unless the website contains facebook trackers¹ telling meta that you requested pages x & y at some date-time, from this broswer on that OS, from IP whatever, and so on…

But yes, containers are still useful.

1. Which is illegal in Europe anyway… on so many levels, from exporting Personally Identifiable Information to the USA (Shrems II) to collecting and using said PII data without consent, and no, pre-checked "I accept" checkboxes is not consent…

@theLUCASTDS @ploum @fenarinarsa @xtof

@devnull at least, it prevents trackers from your browser to directly tell Facebook you were there. The backend can still do it though. Am I right? @theLUCASTDS @ploum @fenarinarsa @xtof

@ronane Well, trackers are *usually* front-end, so it can be blocked. But yes, back-end trackers exist as well and can't been seen (for GDPR complains) or blocked by users so that's a risk.

I'd be suprised if meta doesn't already provide backend trackers to shitty websites that don't care about users rights…

But again, containers (in general, not juste meta…) mixed with µBlock are still useful and even required

@theLUCASTDS @ploum @fenarinarsa @xtof

@ronane @devnull @theLUCASTDS @ploum @fenarinarsa @xtof

#Firefox has FPI (first-party isolation) so the tracking elements in the cache and third-party cookies are automatically siloed according to the site you're actually visiting. You don't need to use containers for that.

A container is an explicit silo for a task/idea/etc, allowing you to log into the same site with different IDs. It can also integrate with the Firefox VPN to use a different connection/IP address for each container.

@tasket Not sure what is exactly your point… FPI IS container…

And yes, the thread was about the built-in container known as FPI… and it's usefulness and limits.

Not about the old deprecated addon… which was, if a recall correctly, a verified addon, before Firefox's FPI existed as "built-in"

@ronane @theLUCASTDS @ploum @fenarinarsa @xtof

@devnull

> FPI IS container…

FPI is container-like. My point is it just works without conscious effort needed to create and move between containers.

I would only bother using containers if I had to log in to the same site using different IDs.