FizzlePopBerryTwistJul 21, 2023

We need a 4th emergency service for people in crisis to just evac them from bad situations, almost like the witness protection.

https://lemmy.world/post/1947798

We need a 4th emergency service for people in crisis to just evac them from bad situations, almost like the witness protection. - Lemmy.world

I don’t want to get too political in shower thoughts, but this would solve a lot of the hot button issues if more people just had safer and supportive environments to escape to and volunteers / paid professionals to help them on the other end.

Show threadWarmSodaJul 21, 2023
What’s the scope of help you’re thinking of? Do you need to get out of a home situation for a while? You could drink a 6-12 pack and go to your local AA/NA inpatient rehab. Bring a piece of paper with import phone numbers on it and you can spend 2-4 weeks tucked away where absolutely no one knows where you are except the person(s) you call out to.
Show threadFizzlePopBerryTwistJul 21, 2023
I mean like people stuck in abusive situations, cults, etc.
Show thread520Jul 22, 2023
Most countries have that. It's called the police. Unless you're talking about shelters and the like?
Show threadDreamerOfImprobableDreamsJul 22, 2023

Police don't help you get out of your home. The best case scenario is they arrest your abuser, they come home the next morning (and hopefully don't retaliate too severely against you for humiliating them), then weeks to months later you have a court date-- by which time, your abuser's likely threatened you into saying whatever it takes to get them off the hook, and the judge is more than happy to play along so they can get you out the door and move onto other cases.

The worst case scenario is your abuser convinces them you were actually the assaulter, and you're the one going to jail. Or the police do nothing. Or they escalate the situation.

Show thread520
So how would this alternative service be any different? Abusers can be extremely adaptive and have outright control of their victims. The playbook of national services are very easy to learn and adapt around.
Jul 22, 2023 at 12:48amWeb
Show threadDreamerOfImprobableDreamsJul 22, 2023
Maybe not quite what OP was imagining, but I was less focused on the extraction itself and more the destination-- a network of safe, private residences you could flee to, then stay at until you've found a job and get back on your feet. Even better if they have psychological professionals on hand to help you deal with your trauma-- or hell, even staffers who'll help you get in touch with psychological professionals and other resources to help you get back on your feet would be a big plus.
Show thread520Jul 22, 2023
A lot of governments do fund DA networks, including shelters. The reason they don't run them directly is because welfare agencies can't operate with the level of secrecy needed to effectively run the service. Too much would have to be 'on the books'.
Show threadDreamerOfImprobableDreamsJul 22, 2023

Sharp disagree there. I understand you need to keep some things, like the exact locations of the shelters, a secret, but right now things are so opaque it's hard to even figure out how to check for what services might be available to you in your area. Like, literally, I wouldn't even know where to look (google "DV shelters in <my area>"??? I guess? But then you have to worry about being scammed, and the conditions, and if they take kids / pets / male victims, and, and, and...)

Would be so much easier to just have a hotline you could call that could help you figure out what options are avaliable to you and how to access them.

Show thread520Jul 22, 2023

You look for the charities and open a direct dialogue with them. They will often handle the rest.

Would be so much easier to just have a hotline you could call that could help you figure out what options are avaliable to you and how to access them.

Do not underestimate the maliciously skilled. One hotline to call means one number for their phone spyware to silently alert their abuser on.