GustavoMFirefox is also borked.
LengselUse IceCat browser plus do some about:config changes.
There. Is. Not. A. Single. Browser. That. Values. Your. Privacy. Librewolf, Hardened Firefox, ungoogled-chromium
Rookilibrewolf is hardened firefox AND ungoogled XD
The first two of which are just Firefox…they’re not browsers in their own right, and they only continue to exist because Mozilla and Firefox continue to exist.
And Mozilla and Firefox continue to exist because they make money off of the completely optional things that this video is raving about.
Important to note there are options.
I’ve been relatively pleased with the duckduckgo mobile browser. There are a reasonable amount of chromium forks that aim for privacy oriented browsing as well, although I don’t have a specific one to endorse.
I guess in defense of Mozilla: it isn’t really playing a different game in the browser space, they’re just trying to mitigate some of the toxicity of ad revenue as a foundation. They’re still a non profit hiring from the same pool as the tech industry money printing machine.
There’s still a limited pool of support they have to pull from, and I like it better with them around so the big 3 don’t have a total monopoly on browser architecture.
That said it’s maybe the best example the model is flawed at the jump.
Bappitythe DuckDuckGo mobile browser is brilliant, wish it had add-ons like Firefox though. the mobile Firefox browser right now seems to keep becoming more unstable over time :/
It’ll get more support with some time. For now it’s a nice browser to keep separate for not polluting what you doing mind putting out in public. I’ve had a lot more smooth experiences with PWAs I load through the ddg browser.
Actually one area I think it’s got an immediate edge on firefox while the wild wild fediverse sorts out is just how many fewer attack vectors it’s presenting with the pared back features.
banazirChoosing a browser has been picking between terrible choices for a long time now. It’s a shame.
Both sides are absolutely not the same, here. Drawing a false comparison between Firefox and Chromium because Firefox has some suggested content is an hysterically ridiculous take.
On Android I highly recommend Privacy Browser. It’s on Fdroid: f-droid.org/…/com.stoutner.privacybrowser.standar…
I have used bromite for ages it’s a custom chromium fork but is no longer maintained.
One of the Devs forked it and now I use his version.
starmanThere is also Ladybird browser
All of these are about sponsored content. AFAIK in tje current model of sponsored content have to inlude some tracking as they need to keep track of how many click goea through, acvording to that they will charge their client.
I kind of wish there would be non-tracking based ads, like burned in mid-roll ads on youtube: Just give a shout out and collect money. But it is pertty hard to convince others to switch to that model without solid data.
Finally, everything they mentioned are sponsored content and pocket, both can be turned off with one click. I call that a win in the distopian modern internet.
Orion, based on WebKit, for iOS and macOS looks interesting. Supports chrome and Firefox add ons. I would like it to get a little more refined, still early days. Looks very promising
HeartyBeastWhy not Safari, if you are on those two?
Is it just me or is this video stupid af? You can easily disable all of the telemetry in Firefox. Like yea, no shit if you keep recommendations on, it’ll collect data for that. Am i missing something here?
Hysteria drives clicks.
I was hopeful that there would be less of these shitposts. I expect this bullshit on Reddit but I had higher hopes for Lemmy. I guess I’m naive.
I mean, yeah, what did you expect? People make shitposts, no matter what the name of the website is
I just assumed there would be LESS shitposts, lol. But clearly that was wrong.
dedaleEasily? How?
AFAIK no matter what you do, firefox still calls home sometimes.
AFAIK no matter what you do, firefox still calls home sometimes.
In the settings you can disable telemetry. It’s very self 3 explanatory. Also I think firefox may call home to check if you have telemetry enabled. But that isn’t a big deal. Can you be more specific on what actual data you see Firefox still sending home and exactly what the problem is?
How would I check exactly what data firefox is sending home?
firefox.settings.services.mozilla.com
content-signature-2.cdn.mozilla.net
There are unexpected connections to these two domains that cannot be disabled using firefox options.
You would have to use wireshark or some other software to look at the actual data being sent. I’m not 100% sure. Likely the first one is just checking to see if you have telemetry enabled or something. Like I said, you can’t just assume all of your data is being sent because it’s phoning Firefox domains. You need to pick apart the traffic. It could literally just be sending (user has telemetry disabled) and that’s it. You don’t know. Firefox is open source. If it was sending massive amounts of user info despite telemetry heing turned off then it would be fucking obvious and you’d hear about it everywhere. You could try posting in a firefox community and asking if anyone knows. I’d be interested too
Honestly I don't think I'm technically adept enough to check this myself. I was following firefox privacy guides, and the (much more competent) people writing them were puzzled about those two.
Of course it's not necessarily malicious, but it has became hard to be trusting.
In the end I kind of just gave up on privacy, I take mitigation measures as a symbolic gesture, but still assume someone's watching over my shoulder whatever I do online. Not a good feeling to be honest.
Can you send me the link where people were trying to figure those 2 out?
Sorry for linking to a Reddit thread, but looks like at least the first domain you listed is for checking blocklists and extensions:
My favourite part is… the context the data is collected. Its collected during you search or interact with firefox addons or Firefox sync.
Also, Mozilla is non-profit. They run on fumes because of it. As long as everything is disable-able, and it is, I’m happy to let them make some money so they can keep going. We need Firefox.
Yea. We really do need them. Liek no browser is gonna make you 100% anonymous unless you use TOR (correctly). TOR is anove my knowledge-base so I stick with firefox. It’s really the best you’re gonna get. Of course I hardened it a bit.
Shout-out to my favorite browser Vivaldi
borlaxJust use Lynx.
There. Is. Not. A. Single. Browser. That. Values. Your. Privacy.
Then get off the internet, I guess?
Mozilla is a non profit, which puts them leagues ahead of all competition in terms of trustworthiness. They have minor telemetry and sponsored things that can all be disabled, and that’s entirely because they need to make some money somehow. No one donates, so what do you expect them to do?
They respect your privacy by giving you the option to disable everything. That is far more respect than you will ever get from any of the chromium browsers.
macnielMhm… bold statement from a YouTuber that uses YouTube, Google and fricking Windows 11.
The arkenfox project is a thing (though they should really move to Codeberg or Sourcehut or something), and there is a guide to Firefox hardening. Still not perfect, but an improvement. Privacy-oriented Firefox derivatives like LibreWolf are also a great idea, but their future is more uncertain, as they don’t have anywhere near the development resources of Mozilla.
