TV producers wanted AI rights of extras forever, says union

https://midwest.social/post/1205550

TV producers wanted AI rights of extras forever, says union - midwest.social

Sadly, I think they will get them, one way or another.

All it will take is a handful of people desperate for money agreeing to be 3d scanned, and maybe a few months of interns saying yes/no to particular faces, and bam, hundreds of extras ready to be used and abused for decades to cover.

Which is why these union negotiations are so important. Sure, that will probably happen. But if SAG-AFTRA says they can’t be used on union shows, well, they won’t be lol

But if SAG-AFTRA says they can’t be used on union shows, well, they won’t be lol

Union shows immidiately get outcompeted by AI generation and all studios doing business with them go out of business.

AI is the future here guys. Union won't stop it. They'll just drag Hollywood down with them.

There’s a difference between “no AI allowed” (not what the unions are calling for) and “contracts need stipulations about AI usage” (reasonable).

If you are not familiar with what is actually being negotiated over, then please don’t weigh in. WGA/SAG-AFTRA are not calling for an AI ban.

There’s a difference between “no AI allowed” (not what the unions are calling for) and “contracts need stipulations about AI usage”

If those contacts include paying actors as much as they would have needed to act and restricting it's usage when writing scripts the difference is moot. If your erase all benefit to using AI it becomes worthless.

That’s ridiculous. I am a professional editor. I use AI tools in my workflow currently. No one is coming for that, certainly not SAG-AFTRA. You’re speaking to an industry you do not understand because you’ve got thick blinders up about AI.

They 100 percent want to reduce AI usage so that writers can't be automated away.

Mr. August, a screenwriter for movies like “Charlie’s Angels” and “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory,” said that while artificial intelligence had taken a back seat to compensation in the Writers Guild negotiation, the union was making two key demands on the subject of automation.

It wants to ensure that no literary material — scripts, treatments, outlines or even discrete scenes — can be written or rewritten by chatbots. “A terrible case of like, ‘Oh, I read through your scripts, I didn’t like the scene, so I had ChatGPT rewrite the scene’ — that’s the nightmare scenario,” Mr. August said.

The guild also wants to ensure that studios can’t use chatbots to generate source material that is adapted to the screen by humans, the way they might adapt a novel or a magazine story.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/29/business/media/writers-guild-hollywood-ai-chatgpt.html

Unions Representing Hollywood Writers and Actors Seek Limits on A.I. and Chatbots

As labor contract negotiations heat up in Hollywood, unions representing writers and actors seek limits on artificial intelligence.

The New York Times
I don’t see the problem. Want to use AI to fart out cheap content? Don’t use the studio system. AI isn’t banned from Hollywood. They are calling for regulation on specific use cases.