sv1sjpItalian uproar over judge's 10-second groping rule
Someone should have asked the judge of they would be ok with a 66 year old janitor groping their crotch for 10 seconds in the court room right now
hardypartI think you meant 9 seconds. 9 seconds are alright.
I mean one could grope him in the face for a very small amount of time and should be fine /s
Welll, pretty sure they would be okay and manage to finish within that timespan too.
anteatersThat’s what you get when you vote right wing into your government. Fascists feel accepted and they are only against molestation when done by the evil foreigners. When it’s done by their own they see women as cattle for men to ogle and touch. Never believe their lies about being for “equality” or women’s rights.
52fightersDidn't this judge come from the prior left-wing populist government?
MetaPhrastesThe decision has been taken by a college of judges of the court (which is even worse than a single person).
College of judges reminds me of those animal group names. Like murder of crows
Ten seconds is quite a while, especially when being molested.
Ten seconds would feel like an eternity. Imagine how emboldened guys will be, especially at college parties. I only grabbed your boob super fast, so it’s fine.
southsamuraiWell, I can almost see the point that there needs to be a criteria to draw a line where there’s no way to call it accidental or incidental contact on a legal level.
However, I just groped my wife’s bobs for five seconds and she asked if it was foreplay or just because I was bored.
So, I think we can safely say that it sure as fuck isn’t ten seconds before it can be definitively called groping for the purposes of assault if five seconds between a couple is going to be noticeable as more than a friendly way of saying hello.
In other words, the judge is fucking crazy lol.
Not to mention that
a) going under the plaintiff’s outer clothing very clearly moves the onus of demonstrating that it was accidental back on the accused’s side, because no reasonable third-party can accept that you can accidentally slip and fall into someone’s pants
and
b) the accused admitted that the action was intentionally non-consensual, but their defence was that the motive was non-malicious
Even before we look at the duration, there are other factors that make the case way more clear-cut than this judge thinks it is.
As an Italian, I feel truly ashamed. There is another case on the news in these days concerning the reduction of the sentence for a man who killed and torn to pieces his ex girlfriend due to “his being very affectionate but her being too libertine”. What has gone wrong with this country?
How are these kind of stories received by the general public?
Do you get the sense that the acceptance of this behavior is pushed on the public from above, or is this genuinely what large parts of the population consider OK?
The one about the “10-seconds rule” for sexual harassment generated a flood of ironic videos on TikTok and was in general received very badly by younger generations because the girl was “one of them” and they could relate. The other one is received with total indifference. Plus there’s another: the son of the president of the Senate has been accused of rape and his father publicly declared that she was on drug/she waited 40 days to “remember” and sue the complaint so she is unreliable. All in a very short amount of time. To me it’s a generational clash, unfortunately the younger don’t have right to vote (and if they do they don’t go voting) and the one who rule are white/male chauvinists.
This is so profoundly sad.
What was going through the head of the judge when making this decision?
What kind of society raises citizens that reach the conclusion that this kind of behavior is considered acceptable?
Fake news. The person was aquitted cause it was not the intention of the act. It was accidental. Simply as that. But western media love to spread hate against italy and italians.
How do you ACCIDENTALLY put your hands INTO someones pants for 10 fucking seconds?
This is not something that just happens. The fuck?
The situation was obviously more complicated than that, the sentence was long and i have no time to explain it cause i’m not a journalist. Spreading hate falsifing and omitting is the usual anglosaxon method to attack their enemies.
She described walking up a staircase to class with a friend, when she felt her trousers fall down, a hand touching her buttocks and grabbing her underwear.
“Love, you know I was joking,” the man told her when she turned around.
Would he say
“Love, you know I was joking,” the man told her when she turned around.
If it was an accident?
Additionally, what does
The situation was obviously more complicated than that, the sentence was long and i have no time to explain it cause i’m not a journalist.
refer to? Which sentence? You can just copy it over here, people can read.
And you trust media? I’m not translating the whole trial. It is a lost cause to stop american pitchforks. Racists as usual.
What? You went from a complex sentence to a complete trail log and went to “Media cannot be trusted”.
BTW: You can also paste Italian stuff. Automated translators exist. They are not perfect but good enough.
I think the sentence they are referring to is the sentencing in the trial, not a sentence as in a string of words.
Yes, the verdict
Might be. Would make sense
I thought one think. Why argue with americans that are scandalized about an involontary grouping when is normal in us school to have mass shooting? Maybe he had to shoot the student, less problems.
This conversation is getting funnier by the moment. You still on “involuntary groping” without even acknowledging what I put up against this before.
And now you add the completely unrelated whataboutism regarding shootings in the US to this?
For how much you seem to hate on the Americans, you would make a great candidate for the republican party over there. Reactionary babbeling of bullshit and ignorance of every argument brought up against you works pretty well there.
TeddyPoliceand i have no time to explain it cause i’m not a journalist.
Spreading hate falsifing and omitting is the usual anglosaxon method to attack their enemies.
So you’re, like, omitting the important part?
germanatlasHe admitted to groping the student without consent, but said it was a joke.
Der Boy hat nur 1 joke gemaked.
Easy: Grab the judges balls for 9 seconds or so as a fully legal form of protest