why did you switch?

https://lemm.ee/post/1073487

why did you switch? - lemm.ee

Hey everyone, I am exploring switching over to Linux but I would like to know why people switch. I have Windows 11 rn. I dont do much code but will be doing some for school. I work remote and go to school remote. My career is not TOO technical. What benefits caused you to switch over and what surprised you when you made the switch? Thank you all in advanced.

I don’t have ads within my OS or start menus, I can do whatever I want with it, I can customize it with different desktop environments, if I mess anything up and need to clean install I don’t need to worry about license keys.

Also chicks dig penguins.

Also chicks dig penguins. And foxes

I’m in the same boat myself. Windows is and has been my daily driver since the days of Windows 3.1. Over the past few months, I began a path learning web development and I’ve been using WSL on Windows 11 to learn. I picked up an old laptop and I’m currently installing Debian with KDE Desktop hoping I to find a life raft out of the Windows world for reasons unknown.
If you’re super used to Windows, Mint is also worth a try if Debian with KDE isn’t to your liking
I was running Mint on an old Macbook Pro a few months ago. I couldn’t get over the battery drain so I put MacOS back on it. Hopefully the battery drain isn’t a as bad on a newer Asus laptop.
Mostly battery drain has less to do with your distro so much as your CPU governor settings and other power management settings, at least IMO
CPU frequency scaling - ArchWiki

Call me a filthy casual or whatever, but I use Windows, Linux and macOS equally. My preference is Linux but I don’t limit myself by just pretending the other two options don’t exist :)
Sorry but you aren’t special, everyone here already used windows or Mac and the fact that I’m not using other systems righr nowmaybe is more related to I not liking/needing it than I pretend they do not exists.
Nah, I’m with you too.
These days, Windows constantly gets in your way with ads, forced updates, crappy apps that install themselves, useless features like Cortana, forcing you to make a Microsoft account, etc. Linux or the BSDs, however, usually give you a bullshit-free and distraction-free experience. Plus, no spyware, completely free, endlessly customizable, and low resource usage (if you use a lightweight setup, but even “bloated” distros like Ubuntu and Mint are often light compared to Windows).
Word is Microsoft quietly killed Cortana, so Windows has that going for it now!
Windows still got 99 problems, but that bitch ain’t one.

I was around when Clippy died. Fuck that bent piece of recycled pop can.

Then they gave us Cortana.

Just wait till they bring it back, now powered by Chat GPT!
Cortana had funny jokes, and would actually do passable imitations of characters like Darth Vader, but that was the only thing I ever used it for.
They are just gonna replace Cortana with the gpt4 powered assistant

Things you mentioned about windows before “etc” can actually be disabled through group policy or other means. It’s an annoyance nonetheless. But after ~30 minutes of tweaking after a new install, windows is not that bad these days.

Anyway, if I don’t play games I’ll probably be Linux all the way. Most things today are web based anyway.

But how is gaming on Linux nowadays, if you may elaborate? I have top of the line hardwares but the games I play easily max out their usage. I know there are things like translation layer, but I’m afraid the performance hit may be not ideal…

I have a lower-mid tier (Ryzen7 2700 or 2700x, I don’t exactly remember right now, Nvidia GTX 1650, 16gigs of RAM,) and I can game just fine at 1080p. Granted I’m not exactly worried about 4K or 666 FPS or whatever the hardcore gamers are into these days, but most games work well with proton and steam. Some even run better through proton than they do in Windows natively.
Wine, DXVK, and other compatibility aids have made gaming a relatively trouble-free experience. Most of the time, if you use Steam, you can just click play and your game will work out of the box with Proton. Performance hit is usually not a big deal, and some games even perform better on Linux. Some games I play also have decent native ports. Outside of edge-cases, the only issues tend to be games with aggressive DRM or anti-cheat, which is hard to get around (though the situation is getting somewhat better with some forms of anti-cheat starting to be Linux/Proton-compatible). Though, I personally, most of the games I play are at least a few years old, and most of the new games I play are indie, so I can’t exactly attest to the performance of new AAA games. I tend to hear they work well, outside of the previously mentioned issues, however.
But linux uses more power…
Windows Vista kinda sucked and Kubuntu 7.10 was so much snappier, and I was already dealing with Linux servers so I liked it for web development.

I got tired of forced system updates and my laptop switching itself on in my backpack - purchased a used Macbook, installed Linux and never looked back. WINE has bridged the gap for running some .NET Framework (not Core) apps I used that can’t run natively under Linux.

I was surprised with how things just “worked”, although I was admittedly prepared since I was using Linux on my HTPC for a while prior.

My desktop still runs Win 10 LTSC though, mainly down to having racing simulation games and a gaming wheel.

If you’re going to use your computer for coding in school, it may be best to stick to whatever they’ll be using? Just so you don’t get left behind in a session by just trying to figure out getting a required software stack installed on your machine

It was when the third or fourth thing ended up persistently broken after an update and the whole system became too much of a pain to use. I honestly don’t recall if it was XP or Win 7.

I had used a couple of Linux flavours before for a short periods and originally planned to dual boot, but this time, just never got around to putting a new Win partition on and found that I had no need for it anyway.

I got tired of windows pretending it knew better than me what i wanted, whether that was updates or security scans or fuck knows what else.

The final straw was when they shitted up the start menu with garbage and tried to shove their app store down my throat. At that point i was done.

That start menu is so bloated it takes time to load.
yeah it’s absolutely ridiculous. Whoever decided that the start menu, of all things, needed to be encrusted with garbage should have been fired on the spot.
But they get to advertise NETFLIX! Guy probably got a bonus.
The sad thing is, they probably did get a bonus, then set about how to further monetize it
Better privacy, control over the operating system, fully free and open source, practically impossible to get a virus (you still can but Linux viruses are rare), less system utilisation and I was surprised by how easy it was to use. My first reaction when I installed my first distro was “Wow it’s almost as easy as Windows”. That being said I did run into a bunch of problems early on but there’s extensive guidesout there. My first distro was Manjaro but recently, since I started getting angry at the fact that even the smallest system update broke my install and I had to run timeshift restores very often, I had made the switch to Nobara and so far I’m really enjoying it
You may want to dual boot, especially if your classes are online. I’ve seen issue after issue using a Windows VM for online exams. But, for me it’d be worth asking a buddy or using the computer lab to get around an invasive OS as your daily driver.
Maybe have both. Dual boot is not as helpful as a VM, or st least it wasnt when I was trying to make the switch.
For sure, but online exams for college see VM’s as a cheating option since the base OS isn’t accessible by the exam software to restrict. I’ve seen on going workarounds, but these exam programs always adapt, making more settings changes required for a VM to work on a test. As if a difficult exam wasn’t tough enough. Windows provides the exam software’s the lockdown capabilities they desire, so alt OS options aren’t allowed.

For those purposes yes you need dual boot. However, of you’re learning a new OS, dual boot is often just too inconvenient the rest of the time. It’s way easier to spool a VM because you can’t get your phone to connect and troubleshoot that problem later (compared to log out and restart to get a picture off you need) for example.

I’m saying have both. It’s just bytes on disk.

I switched once in college just because I could. But then I switched back when Windows 7 was released.

Then I switched again at work because our product ran on Ubuntu server, and I hate PuTTY with a passion, and it was just easier to manage Linux from Linux. But I switched back again when we were acquired by a larger company that required us to use more productivity tools that didn't run well on Linux at the time and had to to "just work" (Skype for Business, Zoom, etc).

These days I spend most of the workday in WSL via Windows Terminal. At home I run a handful of Linux VMs atop an ESXi hypervisor installed on an old desktop. But when I'm not working, I generally just stay as far away from computers as possible.

I switched once in college just because I could. But then I switched back when Windows 7 was released.

Then I switched again at work because our product ran on Ubuntu server, and I hate PuTTY with a passion, and it was just easier to manage Linux from Linux. But I switched back again when we were acquired by a larger company that required us to use more productivity tools that didn't run well on Linux at the time and had to to "just work" (Skype for Business, Zoom, etc).

These days I spend most of the workday in WSL via Windows Terminal. At home I run a handful of Linux VMs atop an ESXi hypervisor installed on an old desktop. But when I'm not working, I generally just stay as far away from computers as possible.

So it was 1995, and a new version of Windows came out. Sadly it didnt run on our 486 so we upgraded to a new computer with a Pentium processor (a week before the Pentium Pro was released). My parents got their new machine and i was left with with Windows 3.11.

A friend of mine from school, a few years older, had just come back from a computer show down in Green Bay with a box fully of floppy disks (like 70). That weekend i brought my computer over to his house along with a few other friends and we all installed Slackware. At that point we were all using the Universe of Wisconsin’s dialup service and were able to get online, do some Gopher, IRC and MUDing.

The only other time i ran a non *nix OS would be when work gave me a Windows machine or when I was gaming (Quake, Ultima Online). Otherwise it has been Linux and BSDs since 95

Windows became unusable for me. Forced updates, unremovable adware, resetting user preferences, and shockingly stability.

I mostly game and tinker on my PC and for the most part everything’s just works these days. Sometimes I run into a game that has poor performance or something I need to tweak. But truth be told that was not unusual in windows either. I would frequently need to mess with ini’s and config files in games to make them work right or have FOV not designed for consoles.

Linux is not perfect but windows is also not perfect the big difference is your used to it’s quirks and the methods to fix them. If you use Linux enough and long enough you will get the same sort of skills.

There are a small list of programs I can’t replace like fusion360, Photoshop, and Visio.

If those Gimp is good enough to replace Photoshop for most my tasks but not always.

I just use Photoshop CS6 (cloud subscriptions can get fucked) through wine the odd time I need it and so far I haven’t encountered any problems. Fusion360 is still super janky though, and I don’t know visio.
Citing gaming as reason for Linux is … unusual.
They only stated what they do on the pc , not it being a reason why
I really didn’t want to install Vista. I didn’t like how it looked or felt so I swapped out XP for Ubuntu. I stayed until Win7 and switched back to windows, but windows 8 rolled around and I went to Fedora. I’ve been here ever since.
The easiest way to try linux is to install it from the Microsoft App Store — not joking, windows officially supports running Linux now. Here’s a random tutorial: adamtheautomator.com/windows-subsystem-for-linux/
The Ultimate Guide to Windows Subsystem for Linux (Windows WSL)

Learn how to natively work within Linux on Windows 10 with Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL in Windows) in this HUGE guide!

ATA Learning
When my last PC‌ died around 2019, I had to use a spare, hand-me-down laptop that could barely run windows 7. I was already exposed to Linux back then, and that I was counting on its reputation to run on a potato. I installed Ubuntu (kind of a bad choice, perhaps) on that ancient laptop and it ran surprisingly well! I didn’t look back at that point, even after that laptop died (of old age) and I got a new PC.
Why Ubuntu is considered a bad choice?

Well, it wasn’t the best choice on laptop that is already quite old and underpowered. I didn’t know back then, but there are lightweight Linux distros that would have served me better.

The laptop only had 4GB of RAM. I forgot about its processor, but it was decent for 2007. Even then, it was able to run, without much trouble, so long as you don’t do much. Watch the CPU and memory usage and it’s mostly ok.

Windows is cancer with the telemetry. Also the updates, which is the reason I hate Ubuntu
Windows ME sucked big time. Never looked back.

Back in the days of Vista, I had been dual-booting and using Knoppix (Live CD) as needed for a while. My main daily use outside of games was all open source that was available on Windows and Linux, OpenOffice (would recommend LibreOffice now), Firefox, Thunderbird, etc.

Windows used to get dreadfully slow, unless you reinstalled. Or maybe I was fixing something. Reformatted the hard drive, set up the Linux partition (Ubuntu 6.06 IIRC), Synaptic, tick all my usuals, apply. Come back a little bit later, fully up to date, do some logins, Linux is fully usable. Even installed Battle for Wesnoth in case.

Boot over to Windows, update, reboot, update, reboot, install drivers, more reboots. More drivers, more installables, more updates, more reboots

It was bedtime, off finish off later, and I ended up using Ubuntu as my main for a week.

After that week, I found I only booted to Windows for games. Never looked back. That week is the week I flipped from 60%/40% Windows/Linux to 60%/40% Linux/Windows. Since then Linux only gets better, and I use Windows less and less.

About the reason for switching, it was something pretty small, actually:
Windows' UX getting increasingly worse for keyboard usage (it slowly but surely got to my nerves e.e" ). Added with my HDD with Win10 dying after 6 years, being impulsive and loving to learn new things, I set to test new systems, in search for the ideal UX for my needs. Then, the Linux distros fitted like a glove, even more so with how customizable they could be, and they became my main systems (Mint currently). Still, ever since stopping using Windows as my main system family, I don't shy away from testing other systems. Even got the chance of testing Vista (surprisingly functional despite its infamy) and Macintosh 7 (I got very lucky in finding someone with such a computer).

And as mentioned before, a good part of Linux is being customizable. And surprisingly (from an outsider's perspective), you don't need to know coding most of the time! You just need to know how to do troubleshooting (which Linux programs more often than not facilitate by showing the error in detail). Also also, from an ADHD point of view, it is good for non-linear learning, since small things you learn in one activity can help immensely in other activities, potentially even helping with non-Linux systems.

But as a cautionary tale, not all things work on Linux, so it's always good to have a back up system or system installation ISO around. And given Linux's open nature, you either have companies working behind them, such as Canonical, Red Hat and Microsoft (this last one with their "Azure" server system), potentially deteriorating their systems for the sake of profit, or systems made from users to users, which then depend on the devs being interested in continuing development, so don't expect your favorite distro to be supported forever, and be ready to make the jump to other distros if you need to.

Windows is a spying machine if you don’t work hard to change the default settings
Dota (1, in warcraft 3) would have a hitch every once in a while, and i’d die if it was in a fight. Cause was swap writing to disk, that you can’t turn off in winxp. I was already looking at linux, so i said f it. Bdw warcraft 3 runs well on linux if you add -opengl.
"Hey do you wanna sign up for the OneDrive subscription? No? Don't worry I'll come back in three days with a popup screen just in case."

I switched when my old Windoz XP install deflated in a blue screen of death. I didn’t even know there was a difference between an OS and the computer as a whole, but a friend gave me four live CDs with linux distros on them (Ubuntu 12.04, Bodhi, PClinus, can’t remember the third).

What made me stay was the FOSS ideals that make software available to all. I was so broke at the time that I didn’t have the money to buy a new $100 windows install. Without Linux I wouldn’t have had a computer. Since then it’s always been the ethos that has kept me with Linux. That being said, here are the unexpected benefits:

  • Entire file system is stored as text files. Super easy to back up ans administrate.
  • Support communities (Arch wiki, ubuntu forums, etc…) are filled with highly educated members who have very often asked and answered the questions I had.
  • The app repositories. It blew my mind when I found out I didn’t have to hunt around on the web for an .exe file that might be coming from an insecure source. Linux apps (distro repos, flatpaks, snaps) are centrally available from your terminal just for your distribution.
  • Lastly a more overarching meta-point, the software respects thr user. Windows and MacOS don’t respect you and make it difficult to maintain freedom in the way that you use your computer and manage your files.

I first dual-booted Linux back in 2008 because I’m a musician and at the time I was a broke highschooler trying to use Ubuntu Studio to record and mix songs without dropping $500 on a Pro Tools license. After that I’d generally always have a dual boot system because I like using Linux for its flexibility.

Back in December I switched to 100% Linux Mint on my main gaming PC because my Windows 10 install was starting to die in all kinds of ways and I was gonna have to reinstall, so I just formatted the partition and went all Linux.

I also self-host a bunch of little servers for various stuff on like 5 different little single-board-computers (Pi 4, M1 Mac Mini, etc), and they all run various flavors of Linux, mostly Debian and Ubuntu but also Asahi on the Mac.

In general I find it waaaay easier to maintain, update, repair, and modify. Package managers should be available for every OS by default, not as an ugly hack like on Windows or MacOS.

For vim, terminals, and keyboard-driven window management. It’s nice to have full control and feel like a first class citizen instead of a product. Or like the developer actively thinks you’re an idiot.
When I was in college, one of those stupid Lockdown Browsers broke my laptop’s ability to use its physical speakers. No amount of modifying Windows registries or even clean installing Windows could fix it. I booted Linux from a USB stick and lo and behold everything worked as normal. I wiped Windows and never looked back.
Is faster. I don’t care about the extra bells and whistles, and I want a straightforward functioning system that allows me to do what I need to do. I also like that I can customize my desktop experience to my heart’s desires. I can literally change the way my system looks if I get bored of it. Most importantly, the lack of tracking/telemetry and being a smaller target on the web.

I have to use Windows for work, and I choose to use Linux for all of my personal devices. Windows is trying very hard to corral me into using bing, edge, cortana, etc. and gets in my way when I try to use the tools I prefer instead. It intentionally obscures what its doing with updates and security. That is unacceptable. This is my computer, not theirs.

No Linux distro that I’ve tried does any of that shit.

I saw a post from r/unixporn on all and thought it looked really cool.