Does it feel like the fediverse is exclusively used by older tech nerds?

https://lemm.ee/post/843533

I thought Lemmy didn’t collect info about me 🧐

Teenagers and below, have an innate pressure to follow trends and their peers. They need and crave social acceptance while still lacking the means to be independent and “go their own way”, so it’s not viable to expect younger users to be the pioneer users of an unproven platform like the fediverse.

Older user will generally be more confident and independent, especially when the craving for social approval is not as powerful as it was in younger users.

30 is old now? Dafuq
C’mon…16 is old now. Once you hit senior in high school, it’s all downhill from there.

It is obviously. Just look at what Lemmy and Mastadon are. The whole concept of the fediverse is trying to get back to old school, smaller and less controlled services like message boards, IRC, etc.

Most younger, less tech savvy people don’t care about those principles. They just want a cool place with a bunch of people.

Hopefully the balance will shift a little bit to get more diversity and more users in general. In the last few days, stability issues and lack of content have lowered my engagement. It’s early days still though, so hopefully the people developing and hosting these sites keep plugging away and more people come to make it worthwhile.

I’m a younger tech nerd, but I do use linux.
Closest I’ve felt to BBS since, well, BBS.
The Fediverse is the Linux of the social media world. Normal people don’t know it exists, but it will shape the inner workings of the platform(s) that will be popular in the future.
Maybe I’m am outlier but I’m 21 and here.
Same. And I’m also not a Linux user, I’m a Windows normie. Though I definitely do work in tech.

Trash culture, TikTok and the likes. The gen z folx I know don’t seem to prioritize privacy and quality content. Some know it and don’t seem to care even after getting hacked/scammed.

Living vicariously through influencers, likes, and whatnot. Being cool, blending in…

@gamer Am I in my thirties? Yes. Am I a tech nerd? Hell no. I lack the smarts. Do I use Linux? Nope. I’m too lazy.
Hey I am 24 dont meme me like that

There just needs to be automatic instance assignment for new users with registration time opt-out for those who want to choose. Pick whichever one is the most populated. If that’s down at that particular moment in time, pick the next most populated and so on. Take the instance picking out of the equation for people who don’t care about that. People who do care can still pick their own.

That being said, it’s difficult to grow a new website in general unless it’s already got established backing from other source (i.e. a large corporation, celebrity, etc.), It’s not like old days in the 90s when there were far fewer websites in general.

Most populated? That would slow them down. join-lemmy.org already discourages instances above a certain size threshold.

*looks at self*:

  • 40
  • nerd
  • chief amongst my nerddoms being tech

I feel both insulted and understood at the same time

Woah now, who said people over 30 are old? 😮

Anyway, your average internet user in 2023 wants to sign in to a platform with ease (preferably using one tap sign in with their Facebook/Google/whatever account).

They also want that one platform to have everything, in an easy to access and digest format, without having to learn complex rules about how a system works.

The days of needing to understand a bunch of stuff to use the latest social media service are gone, and if we build a website/service that requires us to know and understand more complex stuff, and add more barriers to entry, and MOST IMPORTANTLY if we split it up in to a thousand little corners instead of having it all in one place? People will shy away.

Another issue is consistency. People, myself included, want consistency and accountability. I want the people running the platform to be publicly known figures/companies that are accountable for the platform and how they run it, but with this fediverse stuff, it can be run by any anonymous person, who could be doing anything with the private data in our account back ends. And that could be the case hundreds of times over, with all sorts of groups, from all around the world.

There’s no accountability, no way to ensure they’re meeting requirements of our laws. It’s all very untrustworthy and wild west.

That’s fine for some people, but the majority of normal users? They want security, they want safety, they want simple ease of use.

(preferably using one tap sign in with their Facebook/Google/whatever account).

Kbin can actually do this, so no reason why Lemmy couldn’t

Hmm, not sure. But I’m in my 20s and I love to advocate for privacy and decentralization.
Older? It seems the general lemmy population is in their early 20s.
Currently interning as software engineer and typing this from a Linux machine. I’m Gen Z though.
  • ~30 years old or older
  • tech enthusiasts/workers
  • linux users
  • hates Elon Musk
  • hates capitalism

There’s always a group on the forefront, it makes sense that it’s tech interested people Fediverse being based on open source software and all about sharing means it’s right p Linux user’s alley.

The 30+ demographic not sure, maybe just people a bit grown up and now under as much peer pressure to be on the more popular corporate platforms.

Because ipad kids are happy with instagram,tiktok and other shit and doesn’t give a fuck about privacy.
● under 30 ● i mean im getting there in terms of tech interests ● Yeah ok i use linux

as a young IT with friends who dont know much about IT i have to say that most around 20 use reddit, instagram, … cause its the only thing they know. everyone they know uses them and many of them want likes, …

if they would join the fediverse:

  • they wouldnt understand how it works. what is a server? why choose an instance? its just too complicated
  • all their friends dont use the fediverse. they would be alone and have nobody who they can share things to
  • they would mostly see tech stuff and less in categories they are interested in
  • none of the people they follow on instagram are here. the cant follow their celebrities, … and see their content
  • the fediverse still has to less users to be successful worldwide. its growing. and just like facebook in its first years, its growing slow.
  • => give it a few more years and get your friends, family & collegues on here and see the fediverse grow

    Well it’s new open source tech that can be self hosted by the 30+ tech nerds that have the money and interest in it.

    I started back in the Wild West BBS days on the 80s; graduated to USENET in the 90s, website forums in the Web 1.0 days, /., Reddit, and now Lemmy. Yeah, I’ve been around. Been “Yaztromo” all that time too.

    I don’t mind that “Eternal September” hasn’t infected this space yet — that’s a feature, not a bug!

    Young people don’t even understand that the internet isn’t only the 5 websites that have existed since before they were born lol

    That’s probably a big part of it. We kind of designed the internet to become an information super oligarchy, even if it wasn’t intentional.

    It’s also used by loads of tankies
    Unfortunately true. Blocking features generally work pretty well though at least.
    I think older sysadmins are the only ones who understand the DNS knowledge required to grok federation.